best 12" drivers

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Pressure Droppa, Dec 29, 2014.

  1. im building a custom cab. 4x12 price is no object. What kind of speakers do I want? My band plays jam band style and rock. I play pretty articulate stuff. I'm playing a 5 string. It will be a tuned ported cab.
     
  2. sprag

    sprag

    Sep 15, 2011
    Melb Australia
    Tweeter or mid driver?
     
  3. JACink

    JACink

    Mar 9, 2011
    Spain
    Have you actually started the cab yet?
     
  4. JACink

    JACink

    Mar 9, 2011
    Spain
    A 12" tweeter would be pretty spectacular!
     
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  5. sprag

    sprag

    Sep 15, 2011
    Melb Australia
    Will it include a tweeter/s and/or mid range driver/s in the design along with the 12's

    Also
    What amp are you going to use?
    How big are your roadies?
     
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  6. iualum

    iualum

    Apr 9, 2004
    60453
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  7. Rick James

    Rick James Inactive

    Feb 24, 2007
    New Jersey
    What speakers are recommended in your plans? Good plans will tell you what to use and why. If they don't theyre not good plans.
    +1.
     
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  8. Do you have any part of the cab designed or built yet?
     
  9. Ok. Sorry about the lack of info. I'm running a gk 1001rb mark 2. I have not started anything yet. My father is an electrical engineer and he used to build custom home theater systems. He has built thousands of speaker enclosures and sub boxes but never for bass guitar. He tells me that he can use his equipment to build me a bass cab and tune and port it to give me great sound. Right now I play a Mesa boogie ph 2x12 and love it. I usually have the horn turned down a lot but not off completely. So there are no plans started yet. And to be honest I don't know about the mid ranges or tweeters. if I need them I'll get them but if I can get a good sound without one or the other that would be fine too. I just read stuff all the time that makes it seem like mixing driver sizes creates a whole new array of technical details to work out. Thank you for anyone's input or experience.
     
  10. If I can get a better sound from 2 2x12 cabs then 1 4x12 then I'll make the 2. But if it's for portability I already have a 2x12 I love that I can take when I don't need to make earthquakes. And If I just make a single 2x12 cab and throw it with my existing Mesa ph 2x12 im worried that they are not going to mix smoothly without creating new problems. I usually never like mixing driver sizes or types of enclosures because I feel like unless they are identical they will get in each others way. I may be wrong, enlighten me please!
     
  11. christw

    christw Get low!

    May 11, 2008
    Dayton OH
    THE MADDEST SCIENTIST
    If you already love the Mesa, why not get another? Then you have a modular 4x12 rig you know you'll enjoy at lower cost.

    Not gonna try talking you out of doing a DIY custom design. It's a good learning experience.
     
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  12. And I know your saying, if price is no object then buy another Cab from a reputable company. My brother and I both play bass and my dad wants to spend time with us and have a project so he said if we came together to build the cabs then he would pay for everything and each of us could build any set up we like. He knows how to build awsome speaker enclosures, what he doesn't know are the specs and details of frequency response that are ideal for this application. I basically need the technical jar gain to tell him the parameters he should be aiming for in this situation.
     

  13. Are you set on the 412 configuration?
     
  14. seamonkey

    seamonkey

    Aug 6, 2004
    With off the shelve drivers the best you can do is Bill Fitzmaurice horn loaded design or a Greenboy regular design.

    Some top Manufacturers aren't going to use off the shelf, they're going to design the drivers for their own designs and get them built.
    If money is no object, you can work with a speaker manufacturer to get your own drivers built.
     
  15. Raf Seibert

    Raf Seibert

    Dec 16, 2013
    Texas
    You might introduce your dad to the Fearful cabinet designs. He may want to roll him own, but they'll give him something to think about. They use very high quality off the shelf speakers and so they give a lot of output compared to many commercial cabs
     
  16. ThisBass

    ThisBass

    Aug 29, 2012
    Germany
    Faital 12PR300
    Beyma 12LW30N
     
  17. xk49w

    xk49w

    Apr 13, 2008
  18. iualum

    iualum

    Apr 9, 2004
    60453
    ^^^
    Better than a good deal. I plan on employing 4 of them in a BFM Simplexx 2 x 212 build ;). But for a "price-is-no-object" build, not my 1st choice, that's all.
     
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  19. seamonkey

    seamonkey

    Aug 6, 2004
    They are not what they seem, Only the "Magnet label" says Faital, it may look like a 12PR300 but they are falsely advertising these as the real thing.

    "We bought the remaining stock of these fantastic Faital NEO 12PR300′s that were supplied to Genz Benz and have the GB part number Faital magnet label. 8 ohm only. "

    I wouldn't expect they match 12PR300 stock drivers.
    A good speaker build could buy some and measure them, then design a cab around them, but then that takes times, better buy the real market drivers over some surplus seller's word that they are the same.
     
  20. iualum

    iualum

    Apr 9, 2004
    60453
    Clear what you're saying, but the label also reads "12PR300."