Best 1x12 (or 1x15) for a De-Monique Amp/Preamp combo

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by curt basner, Jul 20, 2013.

  1. curt basner

    curt basner

    May 11, 2006
    Las Vegas, NV
    Hi all,

    Just recently, I sadly parted with my Bergantino IP310 and Fender TBP-1 preamp. I had to get rid of the Berg because it just no longer fit, physically, with where it needed to live.

    I'm now giving some serious consideration to the Jule Monique preamp combined with the Demeter 800 amplifier (the De-Monique Tardis). I would like to get some thoughts on what cabinet I should consider, either a 1x12 or 1x15, to go with the De-Monique, to get the best tight low end. I'm playing a passive Fender Jazz, and a Fodera 4 string with P/J EMGs, and another Fodera 5 string, with Duncan Dual coils. the need for the tight low end is driven primarily by the Fodera 5 string. I play classic rock and some jazz.

    I know that the physical size of any new rig I'm contemplating won't be significantly smaller, and may end up larger, than the Berg, but I'll take that hit. Maybe I was looking for a change after 8 years of the IP310... Weight is not an issue, as I don't play out and don't transport. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
  2. DigitalMan

    DigitalMan Bring Back Edit/Delete

    Nov 30, 2011
    Bay Area, CA
    I'm playing the Monique with a passive Jazz and enjoy the Mesa 2x12 powerhouse cab. Monique will tighten up the bottom end a lot for any cab you pick anyway IMO. I'd look into Mesa 112 or 115 as potential options. Definitely in the same league in terms of quality and craftsmanship.
  3. nostatic

    nostatic Supporting Member

    Jun 18, 2004
    central coast
    Endorsing Artist: FEA Labs
    Well, I've gone through a number of rigs recently and have stuck with the Baer ML112. If weight isn't an issue, the ML212 is probably killer. I love it when I stack the pair of my ML112s

    The Berg CN212 is a nice setup as well, as is the HD212, again, if weight isn't an issue. The CN112 is small and light (HD112 is small) but doesn't quite have the cajones that the Baer 1-12 has. The Berg 212s though have the same footprint as the 112 so from a size perspective that is cool.

    Both Baer and Berg have what I'd call fairly "tight" low end. They have a bit different sonic profile. The Berg is a bit more "even" through the mids and upper mids, and has a bit more low-mid push. The Baer is even through the lows to mids, and has a mid/upper-mid articulation that I've frankly never heard in another cabinet. The old EA VL110 was close (but lacked the low end the Baer has). The upside of the Baer is that you can easily hear yourself in a mix without having to turn way up. The downside is that it doesn't hide mistakes. Reminds me of the Foderas in that regard - very honest instruments that reward your good notes and make the bad ones evident.

    The Monique/Minnie/Baer combo with a Fodera up front sounds damn near perfect to my ear. There is a bit of edge that Monique has and the Baer let's shine through.

    Here is an example (forgive the clams). YYD into Monique/Minnie into a single ML112. Outdoor gig, the recorder is at the edge of the stage. No FOH. (with RC-2 looper in the middle, always a challenge live) (our take on "classic rock") (fretless and pedals galore)
  4. curt basner

    curt basner

    May 11, 2006
    Las Vegas, NV

    I looked at the Baer website, and in addition to the 12s you discuss, I see a pretty cool looking 1x15 with a midrange driver. Any experience with that?
  5. Zoomie


    Jan 26, 2012
    East Tennessee
    With that pre ? BNA Audio Greenboy F115.

    Compact and can eat a tremendous number of watts for what it is. Use as a standard cab, wedge, or get two and kill the grass. Monster bottom from the Ding SJ5 as well as the 63 NAV P.


    Here's Mark Robertson from BNA testing cabs when he and I had a gear nerd day at his studio. Off to his left against the wall on the floor are two F115's, mirrored. This gives you a feel for size.

  6. nostatic

    nostatic Supporting Member

    Jun 18, 2004
    central coast
    Endorsing Artist: FEA Labs
    The ML115 isn't out yet - Roger has been tweaking things to get it just right but I think next month it'll be available. My hunch is that it will sound a lot like the ML112 (articulate mids) but with thicker low end and a bit more extension.
  7. jbares

    jbares Ragin'Cajun Supporting Member

    Nov 23, 2003
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Very cool Sissy Strut groove Nostatic on the 3 song...Love your fretless tone!
  8. curt basner

    curt basner

    May 11, 2006
    Las Vegas, NV
    Hey Todd,

    Just got an e-mail from Roger who wrote that the 115 may be available by late August. I'm really thinking I'd have to consider that beast for my potential new rig...just based on your sound reports, and the extra uuuumph of that 15...

    Those BNA cabinets get SUPER rave reviews, but the price is way up there!
  9. Quackhead


    Jan 17, 2012
    Elk Grove, CA
    Why not a Bergantino NV115?
  10. kalanb


    Dec 17, 2012
    I run my Demonique through a BNA/greenboy Bassic 15. Sounds killer. Highly recommended if you don't need a mid driver.
  11. chadds


    Mar 18, 2000
    Why not a Monique Pre into a used IP112 with or without an EX112?
    Small footprint, great sound. Quite loud.
    If you find a pair of ERs you are getting close to volume of IP310.
  12. curt basner

    curt basner

    May 11, 2006
    Las Vegas, NV
    Thanks for the ideas guys... I'll consider them. Right at the moment, though, I'm actually working on building a killer drum kit :rolleyes: