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Best Cheap Rig (700-900)

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Aristotle, Mar 29, 2004.


  1. Aristotle

    Aristotle

    May 12, 2002
    Easton, MD
    I'm looking for a Head/Cab half stack rig for between 700 and 900 bucks. Since it'll probably be a while before I add another cab to it I'm trying to find a 4 ohm cab to keep it thumpin' right. I'm considering a few options for the cab at this point, one being the Hartke Pro Series 2200 and another being an Avatar 2x10 + 1x15 rig which would run me much more, and leave less money for a head. But since I'm looking for 4 ohm cabs, are there any decent heads between 400 and 500 bucks that can run safely at 2 ohm when I decide to get another cab? All suggestions are welcome and pictures of rigs in this pricerange would rock too. Please no "HARTKE SUCKS" "COMPANY X SUCKS" "COMPANY Y SUCKS, I BOUGHT THEIR STUPID CRAP" bullsh*t. Thats really not particularly helpful so save your breath. Thanks.
     
  2. Peavey makes a 180/300/450 w head that's stable at 2 ohms and runs right at $400. Mine is a nitrobass...forgot what they call them now. You can get a black widow cab in 4 ohms to go with it like I did or get an avatar and still be close to your $700 mark. I got mine at a local shop for 7 bills out the door.

    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=443
     
  3. 4Mal

    4Mal Supporting Member

    Jun 2, 2002
    Columbia River Gorge
    If you aren't fixed on buying new. I would recommend putting together a Pre-amp / power amp setup together. $500 will get you into the kilowatt @ 4 or 8 ohm neighborhood together with a decent pre. You can do that and have enough of your 700 to 900 left for a decent cab.

    You need to be a little patient to pull it off in your price range but it's more than feasible.

    From my experience, heads in your price range just don't have the ooomph to get decently loud and still be close to clean. Loud is relative of course ...
     
  4. Peavey Max 450 and a Avatar B212 4 Ohm. You'd be pushin 275 wattaroonies and could always add another 4 ohm and get the full 450. Max 450 + B212 = $800
    439 w/o ship+ 361 shipped= $800
    The Max Head shipped from MF would probably be like what $20 so $820? Not bad at all. Quality stuff! Bet it sounds great too!
     
  5. Aristotle

    Aristotle

    May 12, 2002
    Easton, MD
    I think the Max 450 is the current equivalent of the NitroBass, but I could be wrong. Right now Im leaning towards the Hartke 2200 with the Max 450. That way I have my 300 watts at 4 ohms, which is what the 2200 handles, then I can get a 1x15 or a 2x10 depending on what I feel like the 2200 lacks (if anything) and I can push my 450 watts. Sound good? Or should I go back to the drawing board on the 2200? It gets good reviews but the negative sentiment towards Hartke kinda has me worried. Is it just a heresy trend thats going on these days amongst the gurus?
     
  6. i have the avatar b212 and the b210 and the behringer bx3000t head and it is a great combonation. all that costs around 700 or 800 buck but if you want even less just get the avatar b212 in 4 ohm and the a good head and that should be perfect!
     
  7. Mattski

    Mattski

    Jan 6, 2003
    Cleveland, OH
    I second what Fenderbluesdude said about the Avatar B212. Buy a 4 ohm and pick up a used GK 800RB.

    Pick up a B210 later and run it through the other half of the GK.

    I also have the B212 and th B210. Can't say enough about them.

    Good luck.
     
  8. lsu921

    lsu921

    Jun 6, 2003
    Addis, La
    GK 700RB from Riks $529 shipped
    Avatar B410 $381 shipped = $910
     
  9. Sundogue

    Sundogue

    Apr 26, 2001
    Wausau, WI
    You can get a Hartke HA4000 for $500 new. That's 400 watts into 4 ohms. Very good, powerful and reliable amp.

    That would leave $300 for a good used 410 cab.
     
  10. j-raj

    j-raj Bassist: Educator/Soloist/Performer Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jan 14, 2003
    Atlanta, GA!

    4Mal,

    That's pretty much what I was gonna say as well. I had been using a SWR Bass 350 for the last 4 years and it didn't have the oomph at all and it was like $600... Get this:

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    *Crown CE 1000 Power Amp ($225, used from TB'er)
    *Trace Elliot 'V-Type' PreAmplifier ($225, used from Galaxy Music)

    ...never mind the other items (BBE and RR), I spent maybe another $69 on a rolling SKB Rack. Still together it was a little over $500 and I have 1100 watts, tube pre and the needed respect from my guitarist (I should write an Encyte commercial).

    I bet with an acme 210 or avatar 210 (used, maybe a couple hundred bucks) pull a couple gigs, you'd have the chee$e for the 115, and you'd be golden :bassist: .
     
  11. JayAmel

    JayAmel Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2002
    Aurillac, France
    Aristotle,

    I am more than happy with my inexpensive Ashdown MAG rig. Try one if you can.

    Cheers,
    JL
     
  12. Aristotle

    Aristotle

    May 12, 2002
    Easton, MD
    I was looking through the Carvin catalog today and noticed that the mono-block 500 head they have is about the right watts and can run at 2 ohms but I dont know anyone whose had experience with Carvin bass amps. Anyone try these new heads?

    BTW, thanks to everyone for the opinions, it's nice to start a thread that doesn't go completely ignored, lol. Also, I play a Yamaha BB1000MA, punk/ska/reggae stuff, sort of like Slightly Stoopid/Leftover Crack/Against Me if anyone has heard of them. Thought this might help with any future advice.
     
  13. you should think about getting the avatar 2x12 in 8 ohm and then just add a 2x10, or you could just get a 2x12 in 4 ohm and then just get a good head i have the 2x12 in 8 ohm and i use a behringer bx3000t head you might want something better than that but it does the job and it is plenty loud for me even at 8 ohms!
     
  14. Scott D

    Scott D

    Apr 21, 2003
    Minneapolis, MN
    I would definatley suggest going used. My rig (Ampeg SVT-3 Pro + Eden 410T) ran me a total of $750, and it sounds GREAT.
     
  15. csholtmeier

    csholtmeier

    Feb 8, 2004
    omaha, ne
    I'm also going to say try to but used. My rig is an svp-pro into an rmx850 into an ampeg 6x10. Got the pre and the cab used, have $1000 into it and it sounds great and is plenty loud.
     
  16. I have the xs400 head and the xc410, and am very happy with it. I'd check that out. If that isn't your cup of tea, I'd go with a rack setup for your price range.
     
  17. lo-freq

    lo-freq aka UFO

    Jan 19, 2003
    The Republic of Texas
    BBE BMAX preamp (best preamp for the $ IMO)
    QSC RMX850 (bridged power: 600W@8ohm/830W@4ohm)
    Avatar B212 (if you want to add a 2nd cab later get the 8ohm version; this should work well as a standalone & w/ an Avater B210 later)
     
  18. Corwin81

    Corwin81

    Mar 18, 2003
    Ames, IA
    my new rig(Ampeg SVT-100 into a Mesa Diesel 1X15) probably came out to under $600, although I had to restore the Ampeg(you could get a V4B for around the same price).