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Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by vivaknoxvegas, Oct 9, 2002.
In the TB family opinion, what model G&L 4-string is best for loud rock?
L2000 is the ultimate for pretty much any style...
I agree, the L-2000 will cover a lot of ground.
+1 on the L2000.
Mine covers pretty much every style.
ummm...L-1000 over here. I really like the simplicity factor. 'Course I don't need all that many tones. It's all about the punch and the bottom to me!
I play an L-2500 in my band, and it is great for heavy rock of all types. Im actually looking at the L-2000 since I dont use the B too often and I feel like the wider spacing and slimmer neck might be better for the way I play now.
What are the major differences between the L-1000 and the L-2000?
the L1000 has 1 pickup the L2000 has 2
Another vote here for the L2000. It is a very punchy bass that is very versatile soundwise for almost any style of music
All of 'em?
L2000/2500 (MFD dual humbuckers) - great versatility, unparalleled depth (in series mode), punch & growl for days
SB-2 (MFD P-J) - simplicity (passive but still as much output as many active basses), more evenness & clarity than L2000, great growly P-like rock sound
Climax/L-1500/L-1505 (single MFD humbucker - "Stingray" sweetspot) - "tear your head off" aggressive, more punch & snarl than the L2000
Those are the ones I'm familiar with. The L-1000 is good (single MFD humbucker in the P-position, like a passive L-2000 without the bridge pickup) as is the JB-2 (J pickups). There are other discontinued models like the SB-1 (MFD P pickup or single-coil like an original Precision depending on age), El Toro & Interceptor (dual narrow MFD humbuckers), first generation SB-2 & Lynx (dual MFD J pickups), L-5000 (5-string MFD split-coil pickup), L-5500 (5-string dual EMGs). And I almost forgot the ASAT (dual MFD humbuckers) and ASAT semi-hollow (dual MFDs in a semi-hollow body).
MFD pickups are Leo's design at G&L. They are very hot (high output) with lots of bass and highs so they can be connected to passive treble and bass cut controls for eq (they don't need any boost). That way the eq works in both active and passive mode.
So there are a lot of G&L basses, all good. What kind of sound are you looking for?
All that being said, I don't think you can go wrong with an L2000.
Check it out...how can you go wrong?? I love G&L basses...for the money you can't get a nicer bass. You may want to consider a maple fretboard though, really helps cut through. I just pulled out my SB2 last night and even compared to my Warwick Stage II, man the G&L SB2 is a beautiful piece of bass. You can get a precision style or a jazz syle neck on the G&L's so pick your weapon. The SB2 typically come with a jazz neck as do the Asat's. You can get it as an option on the others.
Well I have heard that G&L basses are similar to Stingrays but with more tone options. I just got a 1995 MM Stingray 4 string w/maple fretboard and I LOVE it. It has really blown me away. I had no idea they were so sweet.
bassman blue: I saw that auction. That looks like a nice one.
Thanks for all the input guys.
Well if you've already got a Stingray you don't want a Climax/L-1500 (they are very similar to a 'Ray - not exactly the same but close enough that unless you want a second bass with similar underlying character you wouldn't need both of them).
I think an L-2000 would be a great complement to a 'Ray. They don't get exactly the same sounds - the L2000, in my opinion, gives P-like and J-like sounds with more beef. You can get a lot of aggressiveness out of an L2K but not quite the same sound as a Stingray (again in my opinion).
Great, I think I'm going L-2000 shopping. I don't see many players with G&L. Why are they not more popular? Or am I just missing them?
Speaking of G&L, does anyone know anything about the six string bass that Leo Fender was working before he died? I haven't seen or heard very much about it... all I know is that it has humbuckers.
There are some people using them like:
Sara Lee - B52s, Indigo Girls
Craig Montoya - Everclear
Dave Pomeroy - Nashville session guy
Cass - Skunk Anansie
and many others you can see on the G&L site. The L-1505 shows up in several country videos I've seen. The L-2000/ASAT/2500 dual HB seems like the most popular type with the L-1500/1505/Climax as the second most popular configuration.
I think they don't have the popularity of something like the Stingray because there hasn't been a popular "bass hero" to bring them into the common view like Flea did with the Stingray. I've heard that the Stingray was languishing in obscurity and pre-EB ones could still be had cheap before Flea and the RHCPs blew into the spotlight.
Fenders are ubiquitous although Jazz basses seem to be the big thing now. And again I've heard that for a while the jazz languished in "second class" status in the popular eye while the Precision was the big deal. Now it's reversed to where the Jazz is the big deal and has a ton of imitators while the Precision is much more in the background.
I think G&L has the same type of awareness and penetration as a brand like Modulus. One difference is that Modulus seems to go after some big visible names (Flea, Oteil) for endorsements/signature basses/marketing while G&L appears to be happy to chug along at their current level of visibility and production - cranking out quality, affordable, "handmade", US-made basses. If you try and order one now you won't see it for a while because my understanding is the factory is tied up with NAMM production for a while.
Also G&L does not have an import entry-level line. It may not need one (not too many beginners are out there saying "I want a G&L because my idol ?????? plays one" like they are with a Stingray/OLP or Fender/Squier).
So every G&L is handmade? Like if I were to go Ebaying they're all safe bets from that standpoint?
I believe an L-2000 was used by Rob of STP for parts of their album, CORE.
The guy from Silverchair, who's name escapes me at the momment, has been playing L-2000's since their first album.
Here's a quote from the G&L factory tour intro on their website:
They use power tools and templates and stuff like that (I'm not an expert on this) but no CNC machinery (like I believe Carvin does which allows great repeatability and very fine tolerances). My experience (~11 G&L basses so far) has been that they have all been well made. Many of those came from ebay and I haven't had a bad experience yet. It really comes down to how well the bass was taken care of before it got to you - it started out good from the factory but can have been trashed by previous owners.
my L2000 is a monster in versatility and a great rock'n roll bass!
I dont think Ive even heard anything bad about G&L.