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Best Lyrical Musician/Band

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by Matt Till, Apr 24, 2005.


  1. Matt Till

    Matt Till

    Jun 1, 2002
    Edinboro, PA
    I'm sure it's been done, but lyrics have gone under serious debate these days. Who's your writes your favorite lyrics. I've taken quite a shine to Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull. Aside from his fantastic delivery and amazing voice, his lyrics are deep and often descriptive in a way that I usually find a bit cheesy. But really who can deny Aqualung?

    Sitting on a park bench --
    eyeing ittle girls with bad intent.
    Snot running down his nose --
    greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes.
    Drying in the cold sun --
    Watching as the frilly panties run.
    Feeling like a dead duck --
    spitting out pieces of his broken luck.

    Sun streaking cold --
    an old man wandering lonely.
    Taking time
    the only way he knows.
    Leg hurting bad,
    as he bends to pick a dog-end --
    he goes down to the bog
    and warms his feet.

    Feeling alone --
    the army's up the rode
    salvation à la mode and
    a cup of tea.
    Aqualung my friend --
    don't start away uneasy
    you poor old sod, you see, it's only me.
    Do you still remember
    December's foggy freeze --
    when the ice that
    clings on to your beard is
    screaming agony.
    And you snatch your rattling last breaths
    with deep-sea-diver sounds,
    and the flowers bloom like
    madness in the spring.


    And I don't even know what a "dog end" is. Also, the song "My God" off that same album is terrifying! It's rare that lyrics/mood to a song will disturb me anymore. And how it goes right into Hymn 43. I love that album!

    So whos our favs?
     
  2. Thee

    Thee

    Feb 11, 2004
    San Luis Obispo, CA
    Greg Gaffin from Bad Religion.
     
  3. Cerb

    Cerb

    Sep 27, 2004
    Indiana
    Maynard Keenan of Tool writes some of the most interesting and deep lyrics out there. He's by far my favorite lyricist/vocalist.
     
  4. Adam Barkley

    Adam Barkley Mayday!

    Aug 26, 2003
    Jackson, MS
    Lately I have been getting into Mike Patton's twisted lyrical/vocal style. I think my favorite songs that he sings/wrote are Harelip (Tomahawk), RV (Faith No More), and Kindergarten (Faith No More).

    Neil Fallon from Clutch can pretty much do no wrong in my opinion. Same thing goes for Mark Sandman.
     
  5. Matt:

    I think I'm with you on this one. :)

    Oh, and a "dog end" is the remainder of a cigarette after it has been smoked. Roach? ;) ;)
     
  6. Dave Maffews Band.

    Mr. Matthews is quite the lyricist/guitarist. Amazing stuff he's got. And the bassist writes some amazing lyrics of his own- for example, 'The Dreaming Tree' was written by Stefan. I bolded some standout lines, but the whole thing is really amazing.

    Standing here
    The old man said to me
    "Long before these crowded streets
    Here stood my dreaming tree"
    Below it he would sit
    For hours at a time
    Now progress takes away
    What forever took to find

    Now he's falling hard
    He feels the falling dark
    How he longs to be
    Beneath his dreaming tree
    Conquered fear to climb
    A moment froze in time
    When the girl who first he kissed
    Promised him she'd be his
    Remembered mother's words
    There beneath the tree
    "No matter what the world
    You'll always be my baby"
    Mommy come quick
    The dreaming tree has died
    The air is growing thick
    A fear he cannot hide
    The dreaming tree has died
    Oh have you no pity
    This thing I do
    I do not deny it
    All through this smile
    As crooked as danger

    I do not deny
    I know in my mind
    I would leave you now
    If I had the strength to
    I would leave you up
    To your own devices
    Will you not talk
    Can you take pity
    I don't ask much
    But won't you speak
    Please
    From the start
    She knew she had it made
    Easy up 'til then
    For sure she'd make the grade
    Adorers came in hordes
    To lay down in her wake
    She gave it all she had
    But treasures slowly fade
    Now she's falling hard
    She feels the fall of dark
    How did this fall apart
    She drinks to fill it up
    A smile of sweetest flowers
    Wilted so and soured
    Black tears stain the cheeks
    That once were so admired

    She thinks when she was small
    There on her father's knee
    How he had promised her
    "You'll always be my baby"
    "Daddy come quick
    The dreaming tree has died
    I can't find my way home
    There is no place to hide
    The dreaming tree has died"
    Oh if I had the strength...
    Take me back
    Save me please
     
  7. Mike N

    Mike N Missing the old TB

    Jan 28, 2001
    New York
    Neil Peart/Rush

    Steve Harris/Iron Maiden
     
  8. Brendan

    Brendan

    Jun 18, 2000
    Austin, TX
    Carly Coma of Candiria is pretty high in my book.
     
  9. well, Joni Mitchell, Bob Dylan, Paul Simon and Elvis Costello should go without saying.

    Nowadays though, the best is Colin Meloy from the Decemberists.

     
  10. Aaron Saunders

    Aaron Saunders

    Apr 27, 2002
    Ontario
    Very much agreed. The band is awesome, and I didn't know Stefan wrote that! It's one of my favourite songs by them.

    Crush:

    Crazy how it feels tonight
    Crazy how you make it all alright love
    Crush me with the things you do
    And I do for you anything too, oh
    Sitting, smoking, feeling high
    And in this moment, ah, it feels so right

    Lovely lady, I am at your feet
    Oh god i want you so badly
    and i wonder this could tomorrow be
    so wonderous as you there sleeping

    Lets go, drive till, mornin comes
    Watch the sunrise, and fill our souls oh
    Well drink some, wine till, we get drunk YEAH

    It's crazy I'm thinking
    Just knowing that the world is round
    And here I'm dancing on the ground
    Am I right side up or upside down
    And is this real or am I dreaming

    Lovely lady
    Let me drink you please
    Won't spill a drop, no, I promise you
    Lying under this spell you cast on me
    Each moment
    The more I love you
    Crush me
    Come on, oh yeah

    It's crazy I'm thinking
    Just knowing that the world is round
    And here I'm dancing on the ground
    Am I right side up or upside down
    Is this real or, oh, am I dreaming

    (Boyd's Solo)

    Lovely lady
    I will treat you sweetly
    Adore you I mean you crush me
    And it's times like these
    When my faith I feel it
    I know how I love you
    Come on, Come on
    Baby

    It's crazy I'm thinking
    Just as long as you're around
    I'm here I'll be dancing on the ground
    Am I right side up or upside down
    To each other we'll be facing
    My love
    By love
    We'll beat back the pain we've found
    You know
    I mean to tell you all the things I've been thinking deep inside
    My friend
    Each moment the more I love you

    Crush me
    Come on
    Baby
    So much you have given love
    That I would give you back again and again
    Oh my love
    Meaning I'll hold you
    But please please just let me always...
     
  11. I love his drinking analogies/metaphors. 'Every drop of you is sacred, every drop i drink you up'

    'come fill me up, when i'm dry and cold, when i'm emptied out'

    Those are both from JTR and are great. Crush is awesome too. I think that the studio crush is the bands finest moment, perfect everything, perfect vocal delivery, etc etc. And some of Stefan's best bass work.
     
  12. Aaron Saunders

    Aaron Saunders

    Apr 27, 2002
    Ontario
    +1 Great song. I only wish I hadn't lost my chord sheet for it...I've got it somewhere though! :) Great song to play along to.
     
  13. NoNoise

    NoNoise Supporting Member

    Mar 5, 2005
    New Jersey
    I personally think the best lyricist today (and one of the best ever) is Conor Oberst aka "Bright Eyes." Do a search for "Bright Eyes Lyrics" and you'll find plenty of amazing lyrics.
     
  14. Gard

    Gard Commercial User

    Mar 31, 2000
    Greensboro, NC, USA
    General Manager, Roscoe Guitars
    I agree that DMB has some pretty cool stuff, I've always really dug "Crush", but I'm gonna go with Neal Peart & Rush, even for the "love song" lyric stuff (Lifeson's solo on this particular tune is among one of my all-time favorite guitar solos, almost heart wrenchingly emotional):

    *Ghost Of A Chance*

    Like a million little doorways
    All the choices we made
    All the stages we passed through
    All the roles we played

    For so many different directions
    Our separate paths might have turned
    With every door that we opened
    Every bridge that we burned

    Somehow we find each other
    Through all that masquerade
    Somehow we found each other
    Somehow we have stayed
    In a state of grace

    I don't believe in destiny
    Or the guiding hand of fate
    I don't believe in forever
    Or love as a mystical state
    I don't believe in the stars or the planets
    Or angels watching from above
    But I believe there's a ghost of a chance we can find someone to love
    And make it last...

    Like a million little crossroads
    Through the backstreets of youth
    Each time we turn a new corner
    A tiny moment of truth

    For so many different connections
    Our separate paths might have made
    With every door that we opened
    Every game we played

    Somehow we find each other
    Through all that masquerade
    Somehow we found each other
    Somehow we have stayed
    In a state of grace

    I don't believe in destiny
    Or the guiding hand of fate
    I don't believe in forever
    Or love as a mystical state
    I don't believe in the stars or the planets
    Or angels watching from above
    But I believe there's a ghost of a chance we can find someone to love
    And make it last...
     
  15. Gard

    Gard Commercial User

    Mar 31, 2000
    Greensboro, NC, USA
    General Manager, Roscoe Guitars
    ...and for a second and slightly different view on that topic, a bit more Neal Peart:

    *Emotion Detector*

    When we lift the covers from our feelings
    We expose our insecure spots
    Trust is just as rare as devotion;
    Forgive us our cynical thoughts
    If we need too much attention
    Not content with being cool
    We must throw ourselves wide open
    And start acting like a fool
    If we need too much approval
    Then the cuts can seem too cruel

    Chorus
    Right to the heart of the matter
    Right to the beautiful part
    Illusions are painfully shattered
    Right where discovery starts
    In the secret wells of emotion
    Buried deep in our hearts

    It's true that love can change us
    But never quite enough
    Sometimes we are too tender
    Sometimes we're too tough
    If we get too much attention
    It gets hard to overrule
    So often fragile power turns
    To scorn and ridicule
    Sometimes our big splashes
    Are just ripples in the pool

    Chorus

    Feelings run high
     
  16. +1. Unless it's actually Billy Howerdel who writes A Perfect Circle's lyrics, which I love. Here's an example...

    A Perfect Circle-"The Noose"

    So glad to see you well
    Overcome and completely silent now
    With heaven's help
    You cast your demons out
    And not to pull your halo down
    Around your neck and tug you off your cloud
    But I'm more than just a little curious
    How you're planning to go about
    Making your amends to the dead
    To the dead

    Recall the deeds as if
    They're all someone else's
    Atrocious stories
    Now you stand reborn before us all
    So glad to see you well

    And not to pull your halo down
    Around your neck and tug you to the ground
    But I'm more than just a little curious
    How you're planning to go about
    Making your amends to the dead
    To the dead

    With your halo slipping down
    Your halo slipping...
    Your halo slipping down to choke you now
     
  17. Against Will

    Against Will Supporting Member

    Dec 10, 2003
    Big Sound Central
    MF Doom, hands down. He flows like water, turns a phrase like Shakespeare, words for him are like legos. He constructs lines and creates images, then flips it around and twists your head 180 degrees. MF Doom's lyrics will paralyze you from the waist down. And you will love it.


    Joe Strummer's one of my favorite as well, one of the best? Maybe not, but still great.
     
  18. BassGod

    BassGod

    Jan 21, 2004
    1. James Hetfield is my favourite, with 'Master of Puppets' being my favourite song (lyrically) of all-time. I love symbolism in lyrics, and the symbolism used in this song is just outstanding. I'm sure I don't need to explain to any of you what this song is about.

    2. Chuck Shuldiner is a close second, and he uses a lot of symbolism and metaphors too. "Ashes and promises share a bond, through the winds of change."

    Other bands who I've found to have good lyrics include Iron Maiden, Pennywise, and Megadeth.

    Graeme
     
  19. Mental Octopus

    Mental Octopus

    May 24, 2003
    i think dave matthews writes awesome lyrics as well.

    i also really like brandon boyd's (incubus) lyrics.
     
  20. Thee

    Thee

    Feb 11, 2004
    San Luis Obispo, CA
    Also, Saul Williams.
    from his song List of Demands:

    I wrote a song for you today while I was sitting in my room
    I jumped on my bed today and played it on a broom
    I didn't think it would be a song that you would hear
    but when I played it in my head it make you reappear
    I made a video for it and I acted out each part
    Then I took your picture out and taped it to my heart
    I've taped it to my heart dear girl
    I taped you to my heart and if you pull away from me you'll tear apart
    I got a list of demands
    written on the palm of my hand
    I ball my fist and you know where I stand





    And Bad Religion's "The Answer"

    Long ago in a dusty village
    full of hunger, pain and strife
    a man came forth with a vision of truth
    and the way to a better life
    he was convinced he had the answer
    and he complelled people to follow along
    but the hunger never vansihed
    and the man was banished
    and the village dried up and died

    at a time when wise men peered
    through glass tubes toward the sky
    the heavens changed in predictable ways
    and one man was able to find
    that he had thought he found the answer
    and he was quick to write his revelation
    but as they were scutinized
    in his colleagues eyes
    he soon became a mockery

    don't tell me the answer
    I've got ideas too
    but if you've got enough naivete
    and you've got conviction
    then the answer is perfect for you

    an urban sprawl sits choking on its discharge
    overwhelmed by industry
    searching for a modern day savior from another place
    inclined toward charity
    everyone's begging for an answer
    without regard to validity
    the searching never ends
    it goes on and on for eternity

    I don't believe you have the answer
    I've got ideas too
    but if you've got enough naivete
    and you've got conviction
    then the answer is perfect for you
    the answer is perfect for you