Hello, well im new to the forums as you can see but anyway this is not an introduction.. So ive been playing bass for a year and a half now and my first bass was the fender squier P-bass bundle, while it was good for learning, now that im jamming with a full band and improving with slap and other techniqes i realized the quality of my instrument is just way too bad. Dont get me wrong is a good starter instrument ( Obviously ), but its just not cutting it for what im doing now. A friend brought his Yamaha bass yesterday and i picked it up for a little test, i noticed right away that the neck is much better (in my opinion, and in my hands), the strings are much easier to fret, and its just better in overall playability. Te tone was absolutely better, i moved those pickup knobs here n there and i got this tone out of my rumble 15 ive never EVER pulled out with the P-bass, Slap sounded awesome, and Finger plucking sounded really tasty. So i realized my P bas is just not working anymore, it did its job, which was making me stop dreaming and started playing, but in a gig situation and band practice it just doesnt work, so i figured i need a new one (duh!), so what better place to ask for opinions than Talk Bass right?. Ha, ive been lurking in the shadows of the forums for quite a while but never actually made a post, so i figured this would be the best time to do it, my question is simply the name of the thread, i need some good middle end basses that can sound good in a gig and practice scenario and play nice overall. We are going to be playing mostly metal but some other genres too, stuff like Avenged Sevenfold, Pantera, Megadeth, Metallica, probably Bullet for my Vallentine (guitarist request heh) and stuff like that. But even though im a metal head i know bass specializes in other areas as well, like jazz and funk, so im really into starting learning about those two, but since im going to be practicing much more metal than the later 2 i figured i needed to ask hehe. So basically i just want to see what options you can give me, im just looking for good playability, good sound (for middle end of course), fast neck and looks is just cosmetic so i dont really mind. My main amp is an Acoustic B100. Can you guys help me plzzzzzzz?
Welcome to TB! Since you've lurked, you know what a great forum it is. Describing the music you're interested in is definitely helpful. But can you be more specific about your budget/price range? "Middle" can mean different things to different people. For some that's $300, for others it might be $1000 or more.
Fender is a pretty good bet, no matter your price range. Or SX. I got mine for cheaper than a lot of Squires, and I absolutely love it. Check it out. http://www.rondomusic.com
What basses do your heroes play? Chances are that they don't play very high-end basses-- those are typically for jazz cats. Find a sound you like and figure out what they are playing. BTW-- you will need to provide us with a price range. I typically think low end = $250-$500; middle = $500 to $1200; and high end are $1200 +. Lots of very good basses in the $750- $1200 range.
Go to a big music store, where the salespeople are not too agressive, and spend hours there. Also, look at TB posts, lots of info there. My personnal middle end basses I like are : Ibanez Soundgear with Bart pups Yamaha BB, RBX, and BBN series G&L Tribute Fenders made in Mexico
Thanks!. Well yeah i forgot to mention how good of a community is this one, sorry bout that, my bad . Well the budget is possibly around $300 and $700 bucks, maybe i can save sum cash up to $1k but i dunno, i learned about this brand called Traben and they have this Traben Array bass which is a 5 stringer and ive heard its good for the price but i mean i wanna buy sumtin that is going to last long enough so that i can keep getting better and better with it, much like tennis racquets, if you are a begginer and you get a cheap begginer raquet it simply wont work later on, and when you get one thats good for your level you play beastly and obviously enjoy using it, which is what i want with my next bass.
Hmm lets see, Ryan Martinie plays a Wwick thumb but thats like 5k so no way in hell thats happening any time soon, umm for heroes well i dont know Flea, Burton, Sheehan, Wooten, Harris, Alex Webster, im open to new player suggestons, basically any player that can play a good bassline without just following the guitars.. or just a GOOD bass player.
Made in USA Peavey circa 85-95 can be had for $200.. Foundations, Dynas etc. They'll stand up against any higher buck bass...
These days, there are a lot of really good-quality basses in the $300-$700 price range--it's a great time to be a bass player. (I have no experience with Traben myself.) If you're willing to buy used, you can get even more bass for your money--especially right now, when it's a buyers' market. What you might want to do is try out basses in stores that sell for up to $1200 or so new, because you can almost certainly get them used for $700 or less. See what you like, then go hunting in the Classifieds here.
I highly, highly recommend going to a GC or any other store that stocks Trabens and giving their higher end Arrays and Chaoses a try. I'm in love with my Array Limited and I will always recommend Traben to anyone.
Yeah good advice, i dont mind buying used as long as its in a good condition. Yeah i saw this review on youtube and it sounds nice, however id like to try one first before buying based on a cam mic review lol
Track down a store with G&L's and try out a Tribute L2500, run about $800 new. Can find deals if you keep your eyes open. Amazingly good for the money.
If I were in your shoes, I'd be looking for a used American made G&L. L2000 or if you want a 5 string L 2500. Those should cover all the types of tones you'd be after in that type of music, and the used G&L's can typicaly be had at relative bargain prices. Great basses that somehow don't hit you too hard in the wallet on the used market.
Before you decide on a budget....bear with me here ....go and play everything you can get your hands on. Decide what works for you, and more important, what doesn't. Narrow down your list until you have an idea of exactly what you want. Sound, playability, balance, weight, body comfort, looks...everything comes into play. Then you can decide how much you need to save to get what you want. Anything else is a compromise.
personally from the suggestions on your sound and what you want to do...well...its a damn simple decision and i think alot of people should agree.....fender jazz.....im not a fender guy..yet... im pretty well set with spector and i also would recomend the a spector legend very very very highly. just the sounds and all your looking for, the jazz pretty much nails all those with an unreal ability. great for metal, great for rock, great for jazz, great for popping/slapping etc etc etc, the list is neverending with them. you could probably get a used american jazz near 700 or so, or go with the MIM as suggested above. again i would check out the spectors and see how sweet the neck is on it. it also comes down to how the bass feels on you and in your hands(sounds very sexual.....maybe it is??? ), if this is something you really want to hang onto and grow with you gotta try a few and see how they feel and how comfortable you are with them. i think the jazz would sit well with you, or most jazz's for that matter
+100000000 Very good point. PS. What state do you live in? Some people might give you some suggestions as to what shops to go visit and try stuff out at.
Yeah thats one thing i didint mention, i live in mexico but i go to the states often, at least 3 times a year, mostly tucson but my dad is very supportive when it comes to sports and music so if i tell him i can probably gosomewhere else.. sometimes i go to LA but not so often. And about the MIM or Jazz or whatever lol ill try them all out next time i go to the states or i see one.
lots of good advice already. i'd check out what's recommended here as well as what else you can get your hands on and see what you like. keep in mind though...basses can be adjusted so a real piece of garbage can feel great with a good setup and a high end boutique can feel like garbage with a poor setup. listen to the tone, and the things that aren't adjustable with a screw driver or allen wrench (weight, body shape) and go with your gut. any music store should be willing to set up a bass to how you like it if you are serious about buying and aren't comfortable doing it yourself. for me, I've always been a fan of Ibanez soundgear basses for good all around work horses (my SR-505 was my 2nd bass/1st decent bass...and was my main bass for 7 years and held up through all sorts of abuse)