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Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by Nickthebassist, Dec 22, 2004.
Jaguar XKE (aka E-Type). Coupe.
Nissan Skyline R34 GTR V-Spec............
Lotus Super 7, or the Caterham Super 7. Some of the others you listed are more like UberCars...not attainable by mortal man. The Lotus is considered by many to be the ultimate traditional sports car. Following the 7, I love the Lotus 11, for modern sports cars I like the Miata.
BTW, JammaDave, the E-type is another fave of mine. You have good taste, sir. The D-type is a close second on the Jags...
the back to the future car!
The DeLorean "Snowmobile"? Really...
I like supercars.
I'm suprised someone voted for the Mclaren F1...........seeing as the Cerbera Speed 12 eats it for breakfast.
I'd just like to say, you Americans aren't allowed to vote in this thread.
This is a thread for people who know about cars / how to build cars.
Wait, I'm the one who brought up the Lotus, which is a proper English sports car...Colin Chapman's creation! And I have a thing for Jags as well...I know my cars! I also know how to build 'em, mate! I know about Avon tyres, and Spax lever-type shocks...and why Lucas is known as "The Prince of Darkness"...
I dunno... we have some damned fine engineering over here...
Screw ford vs. chevy...
America vs. Everyone!
Funny thing how American companies are keeping 3/4 of these Euro Auto marques afloat....
The way I see it, the distinction of alot of former exclusive brands like porche and bmw and even ferrari is becoming so blurred, where it seems many of these makes are more accessible to modest-income drivers than they were even 15 years ago.
You have soccer moms driving Mercedes SUVs, and Land Rovers, and BMW Ms's...
The lines are so blurred, and the technology so incestuous that it almost doesn't matter where the origins are. Have you SEEN the new Chrysler supercar? 0-60 sub 4 second. And it looks every bit the part of a well dressed aston martin.
I have the feeling nick started this thread so that he could argue about how superior the Cerbera Speed 12 is to any other car that someone suggests.
I have to admit I missed the "modern" part of the question - The E-Type went the way of the dodo some 30 years ago... And the newer Jag coupe/convertible (XK8) just doesn't look the part to me. Looks like a Camaro on steroids.
So, in terms of modern sports cars... Hmmm... The Koenigsegg is purely incredible. The new Bentley Continental though is my favorite. (And before anybody points out the similarities to the XK in the rear quarter window area, I know, but the rest is so much better looking)
Nick, I don't know why sheer speed should influence the vote here - everything you listed in the poll might eat other cars for breakfast, but to me, I say "So effing what?". "Style" is so much nicer, "luxury" even more worth the extra cash.
Oh yeah, and I'm an American. I happen to like the C5 Vette and the new 2k5 Mustang, but those are the firsts in a long time for both cars that I do like. Plus, they're more affordable (esp. the mustang).
My Nissan Murano is plenty fast for driving anywhere I need to be. 0-60 is something hovering around 6-7, but 60-to-90 is only 2 or 3 seconds in D mode, boyo (to borrow a term from Nick himself). Had an Eclipse [chuckle] trying to overtake me at 70 and left her in the rearview instantly.
I have the same funny feeling, lets see how it pans out.
Also, I agree that Ford Corp. and General Motors are both american firms, and they only keep Euro car firms afloat with the money, NOT the design.
Ford vs Chevy? Don't make me laugh.
Thats a socioeconomic problem rather than a 'which car is best IYO' question. The middle classes are becoming broader, less religeous and more bent on their own improvement, and more importantly showing that improvement to your peers, hence flashy cars.
Thats merely indicative of having 2 umbrella corporations that produce more than 80% of the cars driven in the western world. - Ford ordered Jaguar to give up its design for the XKR to Aston Martin for the Db7. Theres brand incest for you.
But, crucially is isn't an Aston Martin, its not hand built in Britain, and it is American built, so its falling apart and malfunctioning, right about..... now.
Bah, they stopped making good sportscars about 30 years ago.
And back then mopar ruled them all.
is that good?