Best Phillips driver for Fender neck screws?

Discussion in 'Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]' started by SwitchGear, Dec 17, 2016.


  1. SwitchGear

    SwitchGear

    Mar 23, 2005
    Sunny Beach
    TB'ers,

    What is the best size/model/brand, etc - Phillips head driver for removing & setting neck screws without marring the screw?

    Where to purchase?
     
  2. sissy kathy

    sissy kathy Back to Bass-ics Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 21, 2014
    Arbutus, MD
    I use a Klein 10 in 1. They are available at Home Depot, Lowe's, electric supply houses, and can also be obtained through Grainger's.
    What ever you use make it a quality one. They work, they are shaped correctly and will last for years. Your 99 cent special is your worst enemy.
    Klein
    Snap-on
    Mac
    or any PROFESSIONAL grade tool will do the job.
    I wouldn't use Craftsman, Kolbalt, or others of their ilk.
     
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  3. megafiddle

    megafiddle

    May 25, 2011
    The correct size is a #2 phillips.

    Any of the quality brands - Stanley, Klein, Craftsman, etc. should work fine.

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  4. megafiddle

    megafiddle

    May 25, 2011
    It's been a while since I bought Craftsman tools, but you may be right about current stuff. I still have (and use) older Craftsman drivers, and the quality and fit to the screw head is very good.

    Also, quality screwdriver sets are often an excellent buy, and provide other useful sizes. The #1 phillips that's typically included fits Fender pickguard screws.

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  5. Pilgrim

    Pilgrim Supporting Member

    A screwdriver with a carbide bit, new. A #2 bit should work well; I keep a #1 and #2 screwdriver handy. A proper fit is tight and has no slop, and the screwdriver often looks a bit large if it fits well. Never use a smaller bit than correct, because it will be loose in the screw head, slipping as soon as you start to turn it.

    The ONLY use I have for cheap screwdrivers is to keep a few around to file down to fit for a special use. Good screwdrivers are a super investment. When they get worn, they're no good for instrument work.
     
  6. fhm555

    fhm555 So FOS my eyes are brown Supporting Member

    Feb 16, 2011
    You want a ground #2 phillips with a 6" shank. A quality pro tool seller like SnapOn, MAC or Matco would be the place to get a good one these days you can also find good used screwdrivers in pawnshops, but you can also find a lot of worn out junk so unless you know what to look for it's best to just bite the bullet and buy new. Do a google search for tool dealers to find your local pro tool rep.

    It's been a number of years since i bought new tools so i can speak from recent personal experience, but Craftsman, Klein, and SK all used to offer really good wrenches, but the only one of those three who offered a really good screwdriver was Klein. Craftsman quit selling good screwdrivers a long time ago and SK never really offered a good one. They sold excellent wrenches and sockets, but slacked on pretty much everything else.
     
  7. bigtone23

    bigtone23

    Dec 10, 2014
    Denver, CO
    I have a Craftsman #2 that I bought new about 20 years ago. It works great for neck screws, but I can see how they went downhill since then.
     
  8. Gravedigger Dav

    Gravedigger Dav Supporting Member

    Mar 13, 2014
    Springtown, Texas
    I have a set of gunsmith screwdrivers I use. They are not cheap, but very well fit and avoid slipping and marring screws.
     
  9. 202dy

    202dy Supporting Member

    Sep 26, 2006
    Disposable hero.
     
  10. SwitchGear

    SwitchGear

    Mar 23, 2005
    Sunny Beach
    Would the gunsmith drivers be Brownells brand by chance?
     
  11. megafiddle

    megafiddle

    May 25, 2011
    One also has to consider the type and amount of use for these tools.

    If these are only for work on one's own bass (or basses), how many times are you really going to remove and install a neck?

    I used one of the commonly available Stanley screwdriver sets for years on an industrial maintenance job. I never wore a phillips driver to the point where it would ever slip or round out the screw head. I did have to regrind the flathead drivers a couple times, to keep the edges nice and crisp. I had lots of old slotted electrical terminal screws to deal with.

    Many years ago, when the small hardware stores were common, I bought Anderes and Industrial brand sets. These are very tough with well formed tips. I don't know if such sets are still available, as I haven't needed a new set for quite some time. But they were not very expensive and are excellent drivers.

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  12. Fender neck screws - #2 Phillips
    Pickguard screws - #1 Phillips
    Most Tuner mounting screws - #0 Phillips
    Strap button - Most are #2 a few are #1 Phillips
    Most Pick-up mounting screws - #1 Phillips
    Bridge intonation adjustment is often a #1 Phillips
     
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  13. Gravedigger Dav

    Gravedigger Dav Supporting Member

    Mar 13, 2014
    Springtown, Texas
    Yes. I use them to work on my <unmentionables in TB>, and one day I had to do some work on a bass, so I said why not?
     
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  14. I don't know if the group is aware, but a #2 Phillips on an offshore built instrument may not be the same as a Fender. Higher quality instruments built in Japan and possibly Korea may use the JIL standard rather than SAE. It may be useful to own a #2 JIL Phillips if you own a high quality Asian instrument.

    The angle of the head is different between the two and an SAE driver may cause issues with a tight screw, enough so to damage the slots.
     
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  15. 202dy

    202dy Supporting Member

    Sep 26, 2006
    Do not think that firearms are unmentionables. Advertising sale of firearms is prohibited. That is in the prohibited items section of the Classified FAQ.

    Brownells makes great screwdrivers. Wheeler Engineering is pretty good, too. Hollow ground flat screwdrivers tend not to slip, reducing the risk of finish damage. Philips tipped gunsmith screwdrivers are usually of equal quality to their Philips cousins.
     
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  16. Gravedigger Dav

    Gravedigger Dav Supporting Member

    Mar 13, 2014
    Springtown, Texas
    Discussions of firearms are banned. It is fairly recent.
     
  17. SwitchGear

    SwitchGear

    Mar 23, 2005
    Sunny Beach
    Thread was going the wrong direction, perhaps because I mentioned Brownell tools.

    Back to instrument tool talk.
     
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