Best possible order?

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by chenor, Dec 31, 2014.

  1. chenor

    chenor

    Sep 5, 2006
    NYC
    Hey ya'll... do you think this is the "best" possible order to run my current pedal setup?

    Korg Pitchblack->EBS Octabass->Darkglass Vintage Microtubes Deluxe->Bass Big Muff->Malekko Diabolik->Sansamp BDDI->The Warden Compressor

    I am basing this off the Pedalboard Primer that Bryan Beller did for Premier Guitar. However, I'm not sure if the VMTD and Sansamp are in the "best" locations. Also, not sure if the compressor should go after the tuner or at the end of the chain. Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks!
     
  2. Bassmike62

    Bassmike62 Punch'n Ooomph Supporting Member

    Order is a bit subjective . I'd first try BASS > octave > comp > VMD > BBM > Diabolik > BDDI > AMP. I like to have my BDDI at then end, so I can use the DI when needed. After this initial set-up, I'd try switching the dirt pedal around, just to see how it sounds.

    Here's a few interesting reads on the subject. But in the end, YOUR ears are judge.

    http://www.rolandus.com/blog/2013/03/06/how-to-chain-your-guitar-effects-pedals/
    http://m.humbuckermusic.com/peorar.html?more=true
     
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  3. Dave W

    Dave W

    Mar 1, 2007
    Westchester, NY
    Totally subjective. Basically, do whatever you think sounds the best.

    I run my comps before my dirt, so I'd move that.
     
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  4. Alien8

    Alien8

    Jan 29, 2014
    As always it's upto you and your ears. Try each combination and you may find some excellent pairing tones. It's worth the time.

    Also think of how your playing your pedals. Do you want dynamic dirt that responds to attack, or do you want consistent tone and drive?

    If it were me I'd try:
    Tuner -> octabass -> Diabolik -> dark glass -> muff -> comp -> BDDI -> amp for a more dynamic feel and stackable tones. The comp evens out the tones from the other fx, then you can make final EQ changes with the sans amp. I always tend to treat these pedals as pre amps and put them "where the amp would be".
     
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  5. Stevorebob

    Stevorebob Well... I Am Here, Aren't I? Supporting Member

    Sep 29, 2011
    Los Angeles
    I also prefer the compressor before the dirt. And I find heavy to light dirt works best for me -- fuzz > distortion > overdrive. But this is a personal thing. YMMV.
     
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  6. nshuman

    nshuman

    Sep 4, 2012
    WWWJWWW
    It is definitely totally subjective! It also depends on the comp itself. Some do well at the end, some do much better at the beginning. That being said, it depends on what you like as well.

    It should definitely be what works best for you, what you like best. You could also experiment with having your OD after the fuzz, some people prefer it that way. Otherwise, your chain looks good.
     
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  7. chenor

    chenor

    Sep 5, 2006
    NYC
    Thank you guys for all your responses. There's definitely a lot of insight and knowledge here. Would your responses be different if I were to say that I would probably play by leaving the Warden Compressor, VMTD, and Sansamp on ALL the time? Then would pedal order matter as much?
     
  8. FretNoMore

    FretNoMore * Cooking with GAS *

    Jan 25, 2002
    The frozen north
    I'd suggest you try different effect order yourself and listen for what you like. You may not have the same preferences for sound that other players have, and they may not have exactly the same pedals that you have.
     
  9. Bassmike62

    Bassmike62 Punch'n Ooomph Supporting Member

    Nope.
     
  10. FretNoMore

    FretNoMore * Cooking with GAS *

    Jan 25, 2002
    The frozen north
    I have to disagree there (assuming the "Nope" refers to the last question, that is); if you only use one pedal at a time the order doesn't matter, but if you have three pedals on all the time it can matter. Compressor before or after dirt, one dirt pedal before or after another can yield different sounds.
     
  11. Bassmike62

    Bassmike62 Punch'n Ooomph Supporting Member

    Absolutely.
    What I meant by "nope", is that I gave my answer assuming that all pedals were always or mostly ON, which is the way I look at my board. But somedays, I assume a little too much.

    :)
     
  12. Alien8

    Alien8

    Jan 29, 2014
    It depends how you use those pedals. They have such a wide range of sounds that it's hard to say. The comp doesn't matter so much, but the other two do.

    The Diabolik and Muff have specific tones that can be modified heavily by what follows. You just have to play around and find how each other interact, then pick what you like.
     
  13. chenor

    chenor

    Sep 5, 2006
    NYC
    Again, thank you guys for all of your advice.
     
  14. chenor

    chenor

    Sep 5, 2006
    NYC
    Ya'll are awesome!
     
  15. Rayjay

    Rayjay If that’s even my real name..

    Sep 27, 2014
    Lahaina, Maui, HI
    I'm thinking about this setup (can't test yet because I still need one or 2 pedals)

    Bass > tuner > Sansamp VT Bass V2 (for old school gain) > compressor > distortion (I have BBM too) > octave > chorus > phaser > looper > amp

    The theories I've heard are:
    -put the gain-sensitive pedals first (like a Q Tron so you can play super light under the "Q"); then,
    -compressor (because things typically sound worse compressed); then,
    -distortion before moduation (phaser, chorus, etc)

    ...of course always use what works best as there are no rules
     
  16. Mastodude

    Mastodude

    Feb 6, 2011
    Just a thought: if you're particularly into stacking dirt pedals (like your muff and darkglass), you may want to put the tuner at the end of the chain as a mute for all the hiss you get with the signal gain. You won't want to tune with the dirt pedals on, obviously, but it's easier to hit that and then disengage the multiple pedals.