best way to record

Discussion in 'Recording Gear and Equipment [BG]' started by pablosynfo, Dec 17, 2007.

  1. pablosynfo

    pablosynfo Guest

    Oct 17, 2007
    hey im about to record some songs with my band but i wanted to know what should i do...

    should i record the bass directly, use my amp or anything else i can do??

    thanks for the help!!
     
  2. More details, please... Are you going into a pro studio or doing the recording yourself?
     
  3. pablosynfo

    pablosynfo Guest

    Oct 17, 2007
    we are going to record at the drummers house he bought everything and uses protools so i guess its kinda pro yes
     
  4. canshaker

    canshaker

    Dec 15, 2007
    Los Angeles, CA
    Endorsing Artist: Ashdown/ESP/Dunlop/Line 6/Normandy.
    There is no right or wrong answer. You should try both. If you have the tracks available, do it all, and then you can fine tune your sound when you mix.
     
  5. JKT

    JKT Guest

    Apr 30, 2007
    Buffalo NY
    Endorsing Artist: Barker Basses
    My recommendation would depend largely on your gear.

    If for example you have a real nice sounding bass rig you'll want to mic that along with your DI signal from your bass.

    The DI signal can originate right from your axe via a good DI box, or if you have a reasonably quiet DI built into your amp, you can use that.

    My last session entailed me in the iso room with the amp mic'd up with a nice tube mic, and a line off the amps DI set on pre-EQ. If you capture good stuff from both pathways, you get the option of mixing them together at will, anytime during the mix-down process.

    Being able to change the ratio can be useful for different songs too.

    JKT:bassist:
     
  6. In your situation I'd prefer using a Sans Amp Bass DI straight into the board. It's not perfect, but it's easy to use and gets very acceptable results without a lot of cost or hassle. Don't have the Bass DI, use any other good DI box or the DI output from your amp. I've also achieve acceptable results using amp simulation pedals such as the Zoom 503, but the results can vary and are somewhat time consuming to get set up correctly the first time you use it.

    A mixed signal from the both a DI box and a mic'd speaker will provide the best sound, but it can be a hassle if you have limited experience, inadequate studio quality mics and less than perfect sound control in the recording environment.

    In short: for something quick and easy with repeatable results go with some form of DI.
     
  7. lpdeluxe

    lpdeluxe Still rockin'

    Nov 22, 2004
    Deep E Texas
    Use DI. Unless the room has been treated acoustically your bass will sound tubby. If you record by micing the amp, you'll have a muddy bass line that you won't be able to fix.

    Even going direct in a similar situation, I have to run all the other tracks through a high-pass filter set at around 150-250 Hz to control the tubbiness that's picked up by the vocal mics.
     
  8. 51m0n

    51m0n

    Jun 30, 2005
    I dont agree with this, its a complete generalisation that doesn't necessarily hold true. And I've recorded in a load of different live rooms, one of the best was a converted barn with no specific acoustic treatment at all. Status Quo used to record there, they would roll up with their studio in the back of a truck just to use that room with their kit.
     
  9. stranger0

    stranger0

    May 10, 2007
    Surrey, BC
    record using a mic and a DI, then mix the 2 bass tones to 1.

    You have the channels, so there isn't a problem.
     
  10. pablosynfo

    pablosynfo Guest

    Oct 17, 2007
    hey thanks everyone i will let you know the results its awesome to have someone to ask stuff like this
     
  11. Discount Saint

    Discount Saint Bassist for the music in my head

    Jan 26, 2007
    Victoria, BC, Canada
    Here is another question about recording with a mic - what is the best kind of mic to use. Generally speaking as well as specific, i.e. regular or condenser, and what model, etc? Right now I only one mic, which is an Apex with an SM-57 (or SM-58, I never know the difference) capsule in it. I use it mostly for recording vocals at the moment, but I've recorded guitar with it as well. Seemed okay, but I'm no expert.
     
  12. Klap

    Klap Guest

    Dec 19, 2007
    I agree with Stranger0

    Also, try experimenting where to place the mic. In example close to the speaker, or a bit further away. I personally capture the best (in my opinion) combination of amp and speaker by placing the mic 2-3 feet away from the speaker. Moving the mic just a few inches can have a huge effect on what kind of tone is captured.

    The D.I signal can be really helpful if you want to blend the tone, or for a more solid bass signal to shape up how the bass sounds in the final mix.
     
  13. Atoz

    Atoz Guest

    Dec 15, 2005
    Millcreek Township, UT
    I agree with Stranger0 and Klap.
     
  14. stranger0

    stranger0

    May 10, 2007
    Surrey, BC
    +1

    I need to try moving the mic away myself. My tone tends to be a bit too boomy.