I have never liked line 6 for bass. Ever. But, I've been watching live clips of the tala s show that just happened where billy uses the helix on its own for all of his signal chain and, it sounds more like him than he has in years. His current pedal board isn't as great as his older setups. You can tell that even he isn't totally happy with it because he is always changing or adding componants, trying to get what he is used to with the pearce rack and other amps, cabs, etc. He really sounded great with the helix. It may feel like Crap under the fingers for all I know but, the tone is pretty spot on.