Black tape over amp logos on t.v.

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by OiBass, Jul 7, 2003.

  1. OiBass

    OiBass

    Apr 9, 2003
    Columbus,OH
    Does anyone know why bands put black tape over the logos on amps and cabs when they perform on tv
    (like SNL or the Tonight Show) and even in videos? I thought it was becouse they might have to "borrow" a rig that wasn't made by the company
    the artist was sponsored by, but that doesn't seem
    to be the case-you would think that if you had an
    endorsement deal, your amp rep would be damn sure he had a rig for you to play through on national
    tv! The even stranger thing about this is that it is usually a Marshall stack or SVT rig that has
    tape over the logos- both of which are easily
    identified by their size and shape!
    Also- if there is a reason for this- how come
    nobody tapes over the brand name on their
    guitars and basses? (I used to tape over the
    headstock of my Hondo II P-bass copy, but that
    was to keep people from knowing the sorrowful
    truth!)
     
  2. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Supporting Member

    It is sometimes because of a conflict over endorsements, i.e. Flea is endorsed by GK, and if he appears on TV playing an Ampeg, it could cost him his endorsement.

    More often, it is the band and/or the show not wanting to give a manufacturer free advertising.
     
  3. Wownirvana

    Wownirvana

    Jul 7, 2002
    Athens, GA
    I've heard that there are people on the shows that run out and tape over the logos just before the band is about to go on, so that the show isn't giving free advertising to anyone. Of course some bands just do it themselves for whatever reason. I feel that if I like a companys product enough to be playing it onstage then that company deserves a little bit of free advertising from me~Josh
     
  4. like embellisher said, its all about advertising and endorsements, kinda like on some shows i've seen if someone is wearing some tshirt or hat that has a company name or logo on it they will blur it out.
     
  5. enzyme

    enzyme

    Feb 4, 2003
    I tape over the brand names on my gear to stop people judging me on my gear.
     
  6. FWIW - Saw Nathan East on BET's Sunday Jazz program this past weekend. He's on the Eden endorser list but in the BET video his rig was totally Aguilar.....no tape.

    Maybe that's because Eden has been going through some changes at the company level.
     
  7. Woodchuck

    Woodchuck

    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta (Grant Park!)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    Nate's an Aguilar guy now.
     
  8. I wish we had that channel... the amount of money we spend on cable and we don't get that one. Pisses me off.

    :mad:

    Who was Nathan playing with?
     
  9. Eric Moesle

    Eric Moesle Supporting Member

    Sep 21, 2001
    Columbus OH
    The taping is typically done by the TV show/producer. Its to keep from airing free advertising. Some shows don't care. Others, like The Tonight Show, have a policy of taping large, obvious logos whenever possible.

    Occassionally, if a show has on-hand some backline gear that was given to it by a manufacturer, they will let the logo shine.
     
  10. lneal

    lneal

    Apr 12, 2002
    Lee County, Alabama
    I put black tape over the Peavey logo on my MIDI footswitch so I don't have to see it. :D :D
     
  11. That is a pisser. I was sitting in my hotel room a few weeks ago and the show was all Stanley Clarke.

    East was with Fourplay (Larry Carlton). Such tone!!! I could have sworn that Yamaha was a double bass on one tune, if I closed my eyes.

    Oh well, at least you have MTV - Bobby Dall and Nikki Sixx! :D
     
  12. SoComSurfing

    SoComSurfing Mercedes Benz Superdome. S 127. R 22. S 12-13.

    Feb 15, 2002
    Mobile, Al
    One of my dad's friends is Willy Nelson's guitarist, and he has to remove or tape over the logos on everything in his backline. He also has to replace all the grill cloths with black, if they aren't already. Mr. Nelson's reasoning is that he doesn't want any glare from the lights reflecting back off the stage.
     
  13. brianrost

    brianrost Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2000
    Boston, Taxachusetts
    Once Kim Deal (then bassist with the Pixies) told me she taped over the Marshall logo on her amp because she though it looked too macho for a girl to play through a Marshall.

    I'm not sure she wasn't just pulling my leg :rolleyes:
     
  14. Probably a completely different reason, but filmmakers can't have any corporate logos in shots unless they have licensing agreements for them - they could get sued. Even if you buy a can of Coke, you don't get the intellectual rights to reproduce the logo (using "intellectual" in its legal sense here. :p )
     
  15. laklandplayer

    laklandplayer Supporting Member

    Jul 10, 2001
    USA - Memphis, TN
    When I did the Golden Globes, I pulled the gaffers tape off of my amp and cab right before we went on TV live.

    I told the cat it affected the sound! Ha!

    It's absurd, most people who know equipment can recognize it logo or not.. it's simply ridiculous.
     
  16. Blackbird

    Blackbird Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2000
    California
    Conventional wisdom: Covered logo = Peavey. :D

    What really ticks me off is that sometimes a band will be playing and they'll crop the shot of the player at the headstock!
     
  17. lneal

    lneal

    Apr 12, 2002
    Lee County, Alabama
    LMAO!!
     
  18. Petebass

    Petebass

    Dec 22, 2002
    QLD Australia
    Muso likes brand X and asks for an endorsement. Brand X says no. Trouble is Muso likes brand X, so he buys the gear himself, but covers the logos on principle, because the barstuurds didn't give him any gear "why should I promote their gear"?
     
  19. BassAxe

    BassAxe

    Jul 22, 2002
    Culpeper, VA
    I'd rather be known for my playing instead of what gear I use. :)
     
  20. Bob Lee (QSC)

    Bob Lee (QSC) In case you missed it, I work for QSC Audio!

    Jul 3, 2001
    Chester, Connecticut
    Former Technical Communications Developer, QSC Audio
    Some shows have exclusive agreements with certain brands, and anything other than those brands gets taped over.

    Here's a parallel situation: in televised NFL games you see coaches and sportcasters, et al, wearing boomsets that say Motorola on them. But the sets were actually made by Telex; Motorola only paid the NFL some millions of dollars to have their name and logo put on the boomsets.