black widow, 800 watts??

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by alecmcmahon, Nov 11, 2001.

  1. hey there. uhm, well im getting rid of my old Hartke B60 , and moving up to something better, so my uncle offered to sell me his cab, he said its a fender, but he customized it. said he put an 800 watt black widow in there, does that good? i dont know much about amps, and what kind of head would go good with this, that would be powerfull enough to power it, and at a low price.
  2. Wxp4759cb


    Nov 23, 2000
    Kansas City, MO
    What model Black widow is it? There are three types Old, Standard, and Black widow x.
    How much money do you want to spend on a head?
  3. im not sure, i think he said he paid 300 bucks for the black widow speaker, im not sure what type it is. and for the head... around 300-400 bucks. i dont think im going to buy a new one, perhaps a new one, save some $$$$
  4. Wxp4759cb


    Nov 23, 2000
    Kansas City, MO
    Assuming the cab sounds ok (not sure if a black widow in a fender would sound good). Then I'd get a Peavey NitroBass head, or FireBass head if you can afford it.
  5. mikemulcahy


    Jun 13, 2000
    The Abyss
    First off, I dont think he paid 300 for a Black Widow. Second, if it is 800 watts, I am assuming it is an 18" speaker, you will need at least 1000 watts to give you enough overhead. Thirdly, depending on your style of music, I dont think you will like the sound of the 18 alone. While it will drive your low end quite well, the mids and high will sound very muddy.

  6. Wxp4759cb


    Nov 23, 2000
    Kansas City, MO
    I don't think fender makes an 18" Bass cab. Meaning it must be a 15. The midrange Blackwidows are 700 watts max, the new ones are 1000, I don't know of any that are specifically 800.
  7. MikeyD


    Sep 9, 2000
    I know of two older-design Fender cabs that used 18" woofers. One was a front-loaded 1x18 with 2x10 in it, and the other was a folded horn design they sold with their huge 400PS tube amp. There may have been others I don't know about.
    - Mike
  8. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Staff Member Supporting Member

    Peavey use to make an 18" Black Widow driver, back in the late 70's and early 80's. It was rated at 400 watts RMS, and 800 watts peak.
  9. Steven Green

    Steven Green

    Jul 25, 2001
    Pacific NW
    I personally think you could get a better cab used for that kind of money. Check eBay, bassgear and HC.
  10. rcrimm

    rcrimm Commercial User

    Jun 20, 2000
    Meridian, MS USA
    Customer Service, Peavey Electronics
    The Black Widow was originally rated @250 watts rms. It was redesigned in the 80's, using a Kevlar impregnated cone and new former material. Power handling was thereby increased to 350 watts rms.

    This year the BW was again improved, and the rms power handling is now 500 watts. This series is called the BWX, to differentiate it from previous versions.

    In addition, there is now an over the counter only Black Widow 18" called the "Lowrider". This model is rated @ 800 watts rms.

    As always, the "program" (music power) rating is twice the rms (continuous) rating. The peak rating is twice the program rating. This means that the Lowrider handles 3200 watts peak!

    There has obviously been a lot of progress in speaker design in the last 20 years. Engineers tell me that the "indestructable" speaker is just around the corner. Advances in materials and design will someday soon make power handling specs relatively unimportant.
  11. Steven Green

    Steven Green

    Jul 25, 2001
    Pacific NW
    If you want some crazy deals on speaker cabs, go to and type "alumabass" in the search box! CRAZY!!!:eek: :D
  12. hey , me again, i been reading what you guys been saying, and i think that you think that is the only speaker in there, if you do, its not, there is more, i dont know how many or what kind, i just know thats not the only one

  13. jcadmus


    Apr 2, 2000
    Hey, dude, you're making us play 20 Questions here.

    Pull the grill of the cab and count up the speakers. Then pull the speakers and see if the ratings are noted on the back.

    If you keep playing this guessing game, you're never going to figure it out. And we're not going to be able to really help you.
  14. well if you look at the first post up at the top, im asking what kind of head would go good with it, nothing more. i dont know what your talking about.
  15. leper


    Jun 21, 2001
    well you havent said what kind of sound you like, or what style of music you play, or how much power you want...profile buddy, profile