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Bleeding to the mikes

Discussion in 'Recording Gear and Equipment [BG]' started by bobwhite, May 7, 2010.


  1. bobwhite

    bobwhite

    Mar 11, 2010
    When we record in our small home studio, all members of our three piece band have vocal mikes running into the board. They each have a little reverb and delay in them--typical stuff. We are recording on a simple two track device.

    We are getting the snare, in particular (and which is separately miked), through the drummer's vocal mike and then through the delay and the rhythm is thrown off on the recording.

    Any suggestions on how to keep from bleeding into the drummer's vocal mike and having the drums run through the delay?
     
  2. stflbn

    stflbn

    May 10, 2007
    Nashville
    Supercardioid or Hypercardioid mic's.
     
  3. Daveomd

    Daveomd

    Feb 28, 2010
    Plexi-glass barrier
     
  4. Nick Kay

    Nick Kay

    Jul 26, 2007
    Toronto, Ontario
    1) Point the null point of the mic straight at the snare. This is roughly where the cable attaches on the SM58 and the like, but take a look at your mic's polar response plot to be sure.

    Assuming that doesn't isolate enough, continue:

    2) Put drummer's mic through a toilet paper tube, leaving about in inch of tube ahead of the front of the grille.
    3) Stuff the back of the tube (ie: the part over the body, not the head) with cotton, toilet paper, or any other soft, malleable, absorbent material.
    4) Tape it up so it stays together. I prefer gaffer tape, but duct or electric will do in a pinch.
     
  5. Adjust the delay time to the tempo of the song :)
     
  6. seamonkey

    seamonkey

    Aug 6, 2004
    Multitrack
    Play to a drum track or click track first and record vocals.
    then go back and record drums.

    I say drum track because these days they are easy to generate some basic drum tracks.
    And drummers usually don't mind recording while listening to a drum track.

    Or you have to do like mentioned above and isolate the drums.

    You could do an S-M mic setup and phase out the drums - but it's just a lot of work for what's easy to multitrack.
     
  7. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    is it absolutely necessary you have delay on the drummer's mic? or can you at least tone it down? i'm afraid that unless you build him a cone of silence:

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    bleed will always be a problem. placing the mic pointing away from the drums and a shield of some sort will help a little, but it's not going to eliminate it. if you guys have so much echo on him that it throws off your timing, you could probably stand to get rid of some. a little delay goes a really long way.
     

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