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Bohemia After Dark - Oscar Pettiford

Discussion in 'Music Theory [DB]' started by Don Kasper, Mar 27, 2015.

  1. Don Kasper

    Don Kasper Supporting Member

    I believe it was Bob Brookmeyer who once said, (paraphrasing):
    "20th century music was ruined by the advent of the Electric Guitar and the Sus Chord..."

    ca.1955 - "Bohemia After Dark" - Oscar Pettiford - the Bridge is mostly C9sus. Pretty Hip.
    (Sorry, No electric guitar).

    Can anyone cite an earlier example of the dreaded "Sus Chord"?
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  2. turf3


    Sep 26, 2011
    Oh man, it's been 30+ years since I heard that tune, and it is still as fresh in my mind as it was then.

    Dr. Garth Jowett used to have a radio show on KUHF, Univ. of Houston, called "The Sounds of Jazz", and that was his theme music. I spent my whole college career listening religiously to that show.

    Sorry, I have no idea about the sus chord. Just wanted to share a little nostalgia with y'all...
  3. The first solo I learned was Ron Carter's solo on this tune...
  4. Michael Karn

    Michael Karn

    Apr 16, 2014
    Buckle up

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  5. Michael Karn

    Michael Karn

    Apr 16, 2014
    Funny thing about that Brookmeyer quote is there are plenty of sus chords in his charts, particularly his middle and later stuff
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  6. Don Kasper

    Don Kasper Supporting Member

    Sus Chord Update:
    The 1944 version of Stella By Starlight contains a big, juicy D9sus(13) chord in bar 5 of the form.
    (See the Theory thread re: Stella By Starlight - I've sketched the original changes there.)
    Do I Hear "1943"?
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  7. Don Kasper

    Don Kasper Supporting Member

    I've tried to find and cite the interview where he said that...I've not been successful.
    He also once participated in a "blindfold test", where he evaluated the performance, arranging and writing of a well-known big band artist as sounding "...like a rehearsal band in a Mental Institution"(!).
    Funny Cat - (unless you're in a M. Institution.)
  8. John Goldsby

    John Goldsby Supporting Member

    Mar 4, 2003
    Bassist @ WDR Big Band Cologne, Columnist — BassMagazine.com, Conservatorium Maastricht, NL
    This is probably not what you're thinking about, but Debussy was sussing in the early 20th century . . . here from 1910:

    Maybe you're looking more for something jazzy (that we can dance to) . . . I'll think about it.
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  9. Don Kasper

    Don Kasper Supporting Member

    My Man D'Bussy wuz a Bad MF! Sussin' pre WWI!
    Thanks, John.
    Last edited: May 6, 2016
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  10. Don Kasper

    Don Kasper Supporting Member

    Check out the Ab7b9sus sonority from 3:40 - 4:01. Flat-Nine Sussin', in 19- effin' -10!
    "Everybody Digs Claude Debussy" (Riverside RLP 12-290)

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  11. datihein


    May 31, 2014
    Hey, Turf, can you remember the name of the co-host on "The Sounds of Jazz"; his first name was David. I remember he had a jazz-focused record store in town, long gone now, but I just can't recall his last name.
  12. matthewbrown

    matthewbrown Supporting Member

    Jan 7, 2003
    Harwich, MA, USA
    I love Bohemia After Dark. I arranged a slower version of it for a high school jazz band. That bridge, though, does beg for some harmonic movement, IMHO.
  13. hhalt

    hhalt Hans Halt Supporting Member

    Nov 26, 2010
    Reno, Nv
    He was also lydianing. : ) Is that a word?
  14. turf3


    Sep 26, 2011
    Sorry, I don't remember a co-host. Probably either before or after my time.

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