Book recommendation for non-beginner

Discussion in 'General Instruction [BG]' started by superheavyfunk, Jul 10, 2017.

  1. superheavyfunk


    Mar 11, 2013
    Hi all! I'm a self-taught bassist who's been playing for more than a decade. I've been in many situations where it's become apparent that there are holes in both my knowledge and my technique. I've been learning the fundamentals of theory on my own and I'm progressing slowly but the technique part of it is the thing that I'm most concerned about. My overall goal is to be the best player that I can be, whether or not I understand the 'whys' of music.

    So. What books/DVDs might you all recommend for a player like me? I think I'd like some advanced technique stuff and sure, some theory would be great as well. I'd prefer something that I can read and listen to, than something that I need to watch... I'm an auditory learner, not much of a visual one.

    Thanks in advance!
  2. superheavyfunk


    Mar 11, 2013
    Also, it'd be excellent if it were available on amazon, since I have gift card credits just hanging out there not doing much of anything. :)
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  4. Go to Amazon and call up these names:
    • Ed Friedland - Has a knack for putting words together so we understand what he is saying. He introduced me to scale degree numbers, i.e. R-3-5-7 and after that I understood what I needed to do.
    • Ed Fuqua - His book, The Fundamentals of Jazz Bass Playing needs to be in everyone's library.
    • Roy Vogts - One of the Masters. And he has just split his offerings into three separate books which has lowered the price to where it is now well within range of we mortals. Check out his offerings.

    All three of them are TB members and do chime in when they have time.
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  5. JimK


    Dec 12, 1999
    Funkifying The Clave- Lincoln Goines/Robbie Ammeen

    ...should be available at Amazon.
    Bought mine years with cassettes (blech)...current version has cds. On sale for around $19.
    I see there is also a DVD, too.
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  6. superheavyfunk


    Mar 11, 2013
    Thanks for the tips so far, folks! I appreciate your time.

    While looking into the Ed Freidland books, i came across a review that suggested Patrick Pfeiffer's books. Have any of you had a look at any of his stuff? Specifically, I'm looking at "Daily Grooves for Bass." It seems like it's specifically geared toward folks who already have at least intermediate bass experience.

    This seems pretty cool... I spent a little time jamming to some Afro-Cuban rhythms and had a lot of fun. This might be something to look into for my next book. Thanks!

    I understand the basics: Circle of 5ths, Scales (although I haven't yet memorized most of them), basic harmony (re: use of 4ths, 5ths, and 7ths, minor 3rds). I'd like to know more about chord tones and how to use them *with intention*, and understanding modes... I know the names and how some of them relate to their scales but I have no idea why they exist or why I should know them. lol

    I looked at the Roy Vogts books but I'm not sure where they begin and end... Amazon doesn't offer much info about this.
  7. It's a $25 investment. Pick one and get started.

    They all cover the same stuff.
    • Scales to get your fingers moving. You will not be running scales in the songs you will be playing. Yes you will be using scale notes, but, not in scale order.
    • Chord tones (R-3-5-7 & 8 of the chords scale) for your bass lines. Non-chord tones (2, 4 & 6) add color. Most time roots, fives and eights do 80% of the bass lines we end up using. The jazz guys get into the 3 & 7 plus 9, 11 & 13.
    • Modes are for your lead break solos. Each mode has a mood. Pick the mood you want your solo to give, then play the mode that gives that mood. Guitar guys get off on modes and, IMO, it's best to let them do the modes. Because of our low frequencies they do a better job of this.
    • Then on top of all that is rhythm and groove, that part of all this that most often falls between the chairs.

    Each book mentioned will touch on these things, pick one and get started. You will end up with most of them sooner or later.
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  8. You have a good base. If you want to learn how to use chord tones, I recommend Building Walking Bass Lines by Ed Friedland.
    Building Walking Bass Lines (Bass Builders): Ed Friedland: 8601400675656: Books
    Actually, I recommend anything by Ed.
  9. Badwater

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    Jan 12, 2017
    Depends on what your goals are and what problems you have with technique. Everyone has a limitation on what they can do. Any further advancement will come at a great cost in time and effort. In other words, once you reach a level, to get better will take exponentially more time and effort. Everyone has a different peak level.

    Thus, if you don't know what your technique problem is, you seek out the best bassist you can find, and ask them. If you are looking for guidance to enhance what you already have, consider, learning another style of music or learning another instrument. Or, consider learning how to do home digital recording. This will open up a world of music so you can apply your bass skills to many other styles of music. And ultimately create your own music.
  10. Get Janek Gwizdala's "All the Good Stuff". He's a master at delving deep into really interesting, and melodic, intervalic playing.

    All The Good Stuff: How I Practice by Janek Gwizdala: Janek Gwizdala, E.E. Bradman, Jesse Hayes, Jason Shadrick: 9781503241053: Books

    Check his YouTube vlog, it's chock full of good stuff too:

    Janek Gwizdala
  11. bassplayertom77


    Sep 24, 2008
    I like this one
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  12. GastonD


    Nov 18, 2013
    Belgrade, Serbia
    Pfeiffer's book you mentioned is very good for what it does. Speaking of toher methods t owork on your chord tones and fingerboard knowledge, I might suggest the walking bass book of MIke Downes
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  13. Rev J

    Rev J

    Jun 14, 2012
    Berkeley, Ca.
    If you are just getting into Jazz in general "The Tony Grey Bass Academy" book is really in depth.

    Rev J