Boss bass Synth SYB-5 digital?

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by Marill, Jun 29, 2008.

  1. I'm quite confused... some people claim it's a analog pedal, but I see it touting "DSP" features on the boss website. I take it to mean Digital Signal Processing, or maybe I'm wrong.

    If the pedal is digital, does anyone knows what's the sampling rate and the bit-depth that it processes?

    thanks :)
     
  2. phat daddy

    phat daddy

    Jun 16, 2006
    Tampa Bay, FL
    I have an SYB-3, which is the pedal the SYB-5 is modelled after, and I know my pedal is analog simply by the way it processes sounds. There may be some digital processing, but there's not in any of the settings I use. I actually use this pedal to make very lo-fi vintagy sounding sine waves and the sound is definatly not digitally processed.
     
  3. bongomania

    bongomania Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 17, 2005
    PDX, OR
    owner, OVNIFX and OVNILabs
    The SYB-5 is very definitely digital, you have the correct interpretation of DSP. I don't know the processing specs though.
     
  4. Yeah, and some people think Aliens rule the planet...




























    Ooops... I've said too much! :bag:
     
  5. B.C.

    B.C. Supporting Member

    Jun 28, 2005
    Indiana
    LOL! :D
     
  6. JanusZarate

    JanusZarate Low End Avenger Supporting Member

    Feb 21, 2006
    Boise, ID, USA
    I guess you must not be using it, then. :p

    Straight from the SYB-3 manual:

    A/D Conversion: 19-bit AF Method
    D/A Conversion: 16-bit Linear

    It also says it creates sounds based on internal sampling and pitch detection, and lists a pitch detection range. It's digital, all right, from the moment your signal hits the input processor.

    I've used digital synth pedals that sounded amazingly organic, so I wouldn't trust the sound as an indication of whether something is digital or analog. With that being said, I have never actually used an SYB-3 or SYB-5... and I probably should fire those up just for fun and review purposes. :D

    Back to the OP... the SYB-5 manual doesn't specify that sort of information like the SYB-3's did, but one could probably assume it's 24-bit. That's the standard seen on most modern pedals, including most of Digitech's pedals.
     
  7. despite the higher bitrate, I still hear that the SYB-3 is better from most sources.

    I also hear the digitech bass synth wah is the best synth in that price point, though the SYB-3/5 does one effect pretty well that the digitech does not do
     
  8. JanusZarate

    JanusZarate Low End Avenger Supporting Member

    Feb 21, 2006
    Boise, ID, USA
    Higher bitrate does not equal better pedal, after all.

    My favorite example is with the Boss PS-3 and PS-5. The PS-3 is simply a better pedal because of its unique features and options, even with lower-bitrate converters. The PS-5 carries over only a few of the PS-3's great features...
     
  9. bongomania

    bongomania Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 17, 2005
    PDX, OR
    owner, OVNIFX and OVNILabs
    And my very favorite digital delays are 12-bit. :eek: It's true!
     
  10. JanusZarate

    JanusZarate Low End Avenger Supporting Member

    Feb 21, 2006
    Boise, ID, USA
    You're a traitor to the audiophile community. 12-bit converters? Bah! You probably love Windows 3.1, too... :D

    :bag:
     
  11. I don't think the PS-3 is a better pedal, just different. You can certainly get some wild sounds and effects out of it.

    I do, however, think the PS-5 is, overall, a better pedal than any of the Digitech Whammys for a number of reasons (small real estate, uses standard PSU, sounds better than the WH-4 but not WH-1, etc). The T. Arm function rocks, and the detune setting is beautiful in stereo.

    Each has their strengths and weaknesses. The PS-3 would never get any use if I had it, as it does not fit my needs. The PS-5 is fun for, for example, radiohead type sounds which it pulls off effortlessly (and without an exp pedal!)
     
  12. B.C.

    B.C. Supporting Member

    Jun 28, 2005
    Indiana
    IMHO and IME, I like my SYB-3 much much better than the digitech. Its been a while since I've tried it, but the SYB-3 is still on my board. I like the sounds of the synth on the boss more.
     
  13. B.C.

    B.C. Supporting Member

    Jun 28, 2005
    Indiana
    +1 :)
     
  14. Oh, I forgot to add that you get way more than you pay for when buying a PS-5 in relation to a WH-4 or WH-1. Excellent bang for your buck, especially on the used market. This is a hard fact to argue, even if you're a WH-1 fan (as most pitch-shifting users are :)). But of course, this is all my opinion and I welcome all discourse on the matter. I never cease to find it interesting

    Anyhow, sorry for the thread derailment. I'd like to see an honest shootout (even if merely verbal) displayed here between the SYB-3, SYB-5, and Digitech Bass Synth Wah.
     
  15. JanusZarate

    JanusZarate Low End Avenger Supporting Member

    Feb 21, 2006
    Boise, ID, USA
    Oops...

    I forgot to add "IMO" to that post of mine. :D

    The PS-5 does sound great, but I'm into glitchy stuff. Which is why I now have a Whammy IV. :D

    The PS-5 doesn't have what I'm looking for, despite what it IS loaded with... but that's what the rest of the pitch-shifter market is for. ;)
     
  16. thanks boo! :)

    it's weird that the SYB-5 doesn't state sampling rate and bit-depth. I'm under the impression that all Boss pedals do state sampling rate and bit-depth if it's a digital pedal.

    For example the RV-3 sampling rate is states as 32kHz.

    I also think most modern pedals should be 24 bit-depth as well... well, hopefully so :) now, we left the sampling rate of the SYB-5 to figure out. :)

    thanks again!