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Brand New "Straight Back" 810's now available!

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by shoot-r, Mar 30, 2009.


  1. shoot-r

    shoot-r

    May 26, 2007
    Illinois
    JimmyM turned me on to www.fliptops.net. They are offering a brand new version of the Ampeg "straight back" 810 cabinet.
    Anyone have one of these?
     
  2. Bassgrinder77

    Bassgrinder77 Banned

    Jan 23, 2009
    Do they offer it with the old CTS alnico drivers?
    They sounded GREAT and looked so COOL with that bluish surround that shone through the cloth.
     
  3. coreyfyfe

    coreyfyfe Supporting Member

    Nov 19, 2007
    boston, ma
    They've had them up for a while. They come loaded with newer eminence speakers (according to the page). I don't doubt they'd be cool, but for the price I think you could probably find an original. My drummer got one in pretty good condition, 100% stock for $250 (I know that was a steal), so they exist. You just have to look. As far as if anyone has tried them, I think there was a similar question on a recent thread, not sure if there was an answer.
     
  4. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    All I know is Fliptops did a pretty good job on my B-15 extension cab. It's not perfect but it's faithful to the old design. And Weber Speakers sells a clone of the CTS's for $100. All tolled, that would bring that cab to about $1600. I would have to agree with Corey that waiting for an old one is the ticket unless you absolutely have to have a new one.
     
  5. hrgiger

    hrgiger

    Jan 11, 2009
  6. johnk_10

    johnk_10 vintage bass nut Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 16, 2008
    Thousand Oaks, CA
    John K Custom Basses
    Bruce at fliptops will sell his cabs empty at a reduced price. he sells an eight pack of 32 ohm eminence 10" speakers for $475 so the cab empty would probably run about $520 + shipping, which i think is a very good deal. then you could put any speakers that you want in it.
     
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  7. beans-on-toast

    beans-on-toast Supporting Member

    Aug 7, 2008
    Weber is supposed to be releasing their amp kit based on the SVT any day now. There was also a plan to sell an 8X10 cab loaded with their clone speakers. I don't know if they will be offering one based on the straightback but I suspect that they would do one if asked.

    Here are some pics of their cab (I think that you need to log in to access it) http://www.weberorders.com/forum/index.php?topic=147.0.
     
  8. shoot-r

    shoot-r

    May 26, 2007
    Illinois
    Wish I could find a used straight back 810 in good condition for $250.00!

    I was on G.C.'s site getting current prices on new 810 cabinets.
    MarkBass CL 108 810.....................$1399.00
    Aguilar DB 810..............................$1575.00
    G.K. RBX 810................................$899.00
    Marshall VBC 810...........................$1899.00
    Ampeg SVT E 810..........................$999.99
    and
    Fliptops "SB" 810..........................$995.00 (Note: casters are optional)

    If I was gonna go new, I'd think long and hard about the Fliptops.
     
  9. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    The one thing about the Fliptops that bums me is it has the Eminence speakers. Those CTS's are the shizzy. Not saying an Eminence wouldn't sound good in it...Bruce knows pretty well what speakers work the best out of what's available...but that CTS 10" is a real gem.
     
  10. shoot-r

    shoot-r

    May 26, 2007
    Illinois
    +1
    Yes sir....I thought they sounded great, much better than today's SVT 810.
    Wish I'd have hung on to the one I had.
    If I remember right, the cab was only rated at 240 watts capacity, but I don't remember ever hearing that cab falter.
     
  11. johnk_10

    johnk_10 vintage bass nut Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 16, 2008
    Thousand Oaks, CA
    John K Custom Basses
    IMO, i think that the SVT810e is actually a pretty darn good cabinet. i also think that the old flatbacks with the CTS 10's sounded even better. and the early angle-backs with the ceramic 10's sounded really nice too.

    i just sold a '68 Gibson Thor 2x10 tube bass amp last week and it had two '68 Jensen C10N's in it (with original cones). they were awesome 10's as well. some of the old 10 inch speakers just had a certain mojo to them. to me, they were very clear and smooth sounding, and responsive (as in fast). they really reminded me of a 1/4th of a vintage SVT cab!
    its funny, but i believe that there is actually small group of bass players that have a vintage 'side' to them. (i know that i'm one of them). not that i'm being a gui****, but i feel that that we bass players should also be open to, and aware of just how good some of the old tube gear and speakers were(and still are). with all of the newer cabinet designs, speaker cab designer software like WinISD, and new higher power/lightweight neo speakers, more often that not, for me, nothing compares to an 'old school' straightback or early angle-back 8x10. years ago, i often referred to them as a "giant Bose 800 cabinet".


    .........which reminds me, for awhile in the late 70's, i used four Bose 800 cabs (32 x 5" speakers) for a bass amp, with an alemibic F2B and a Bose 1000 watt power amp (with 14 output transistors per side). it was actually a pretty awesome rig, and to me, more like a modern amp of today that what i play thru now.
     
  12. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    I think SOME 810E's sound really good. I'm not having much luck with more recent ones, though. They sound like they don't have any high end to speak of anymore, and there's a muddy rumble that I don't recall hearing out of older ones. I can make them work for my purposes but it often requires not so subtle EQing. I think you would like them more if you're into the HLF series, which apparently you are ;)
     
  13. johnk_10

    johnk_10 vintage bass nut Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 16, 2008
    Thousand Oaks, CA
    John K Custom Basses
    yeah, i like the HLF series cabs. mostly for their subs. i have a '72 straightback and a 90's 810e that i just re-tolexed and re-grilled to make it look like an AV. while i like the '72 quite a bit more, my 810e ain't too shabby either. mine isn't muddy but i have recently heard some that are. after playing a gig with my V4 neo cab last weekend, and being so happy with it, i probably won't be using either of my 8x10's for a while.

    i also think that an 810e would sound bitchen' with some of those weber 10's in it. now, i just may have to buy some and see. (uh-oh!)

    anyway, here's my newly retolexed/regrilled 810e (a little more ampeg porn for Jimmy :)):

    svt-vr-svt810-av.
     
  14. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    Man, you have the life, bro!

    Now that I have my rig working again and I'm used to the sound, I'm dying to get another CL/810E rig on a roadtrip to see if I can zero in on the differences. I have no idea what I'll be getting on this rig in Duluth this week, but I have a sneaking feeling that the SVT on my rider is going to be a GK/Hartke.
     
  15. johnk_10

    johnk_10 vintage bass nut Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 16, 2008
    Thousand Oaks, CA
    John K Custom Basses
    that reminds me. come to think of it, the last time that i heard a new 810e was with a CL head (not a VR or a vintage SVT). that might also be why it didn't sound like an SVT to me. or at least half of the reason. i think CL's are good amps, but they don't sound like an SVT to me. but my VR and vintage SVT's sound pretty authentic (vintage) thru my '90's 810e.
     
  16. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    I'd rather have a VR too, but I never get one. I always get a CL, and once in a while I get a vintage. Got a totally badass MTI a few months ago in Boston. Really wanted to come home with that one. But 99% of the time it's a CL.

    I'll bet money it's a GK/Hartke in Duluth, though...thank God for the VT pedal. Runs a hell of an interference against non-Ampegs ;)
     
  17. I emailed Bruce myself about building an Ampeg like V-6B 2x15 cab to match my vintage V-6B head. For those of you who are experienced here, your input would be appreciated. I am also thinking about the 8x10 that fliptops have to offer because I had an original 1971 8x10 and have never forgiven myself for letting it go. In my opinion, the older SVT cabs sound the best.
     
  18. johnk_10

    johnk_10 vintage bass nut Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 16, 2008
    Thousand Oaks, CA
    John K Custom Basses
    i completely agree, but personally i think that the reason that they sound better has more to do with the vintage 10" speakers in the old straightbacks than it does whether the cab has a straightback or not. the new eminence 10's handle alot of power (150 watts each) but they leave something to be desired in their high end response, compared to the vintage alnico (or even ceramic) 40-50 watt 10's.
     
  19. Rickenbackerman

    Rickenbackerman

    Apr 17, 2001
    Laurel MD
    I agree. I'll have more info tomorrow since tonight I get to try out my mid-70's tilt cab that I just loaded with eight Weber-reconed Alnico SVT 10's. Plus, I have another mid 70's cab loaded with Weber-reconed 70's square-magnet ceramic eminences (my main gigging cab for the last eight or so years) and also a '69 straight-back cab loaded with brand new 100-watt eminences for comparison.
     
  20. johnk_10

    johnk_10 vintage bass nut Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 16, 2008
    Thousand Oaks, CA
    John K Custom Basses
    great. i can't wait to hear your comparisons of them.
     

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