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Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by jeff7bass, Jan 22, 2021.
Bugera Veyron M BV1001M 2000-watt Bass Head | Sweetwater
Cool interesting deal. Looks like a permanent price drop.
The "T" is higher at $399 and I suspect because it's more popular, or maybe costs more to make?
Looks like a lot of Music Tribe has some price cuts. Interesting.
Namm stuff is coming out, maybe there's some competition
If I remember correctly this was the price a few years ago, or maybe $399? I remember being surprised when the price jumped to be the same or close as some of the more reputable names.
It's NOT a 2kw amp, when viewed in comparison to Ampeg, Aguilar, MarkBass, etc amps. Earlier last year I bought a BQ500 (I know, not 500 watts either... similar mfg exaggeration, since they're the same company now!) but might have gotten a Veyron M if it was $300 instead of $500 at the time.
Back to being a better buy, imho.
I think Sweetwater has some special deal with Behringer, hence the $19 pedals and now cheap amps.
$199 for the BX2000H
Behringer Ultrabass BX2000H 2000-watt Bass Head
Whether 2000w is equal or not, it is still ear bleeding and speaker blowing loud. Be careful.
Good thought. I've also wondered if they are pushing them out the door... dunno. Sweetwater usually just carries the cream of the crop (and higher margin brands) and I wonder if Behringer/the rest of their related brands no longer qualify for their ideal products for resale.
Ah - there was a big announcement. Bad timing on the 6th.
It's on the Music Tribe and Sweetwater news pages
"Chuck Surack, CEO of Sweetwater, and Uli Behringer, CEO of Music Tribe, today announced the entering of an industry-first strategic relationship. The focus of this Super Partner relationship is to deliver an obsessive Customer Experience with unique collaborative opportunities to realize co-innovation of new products, co-marketing related to learning and education as well as a unique EDI collaboration to ensure all products are always in stock and readily available - now at up to 40% reduced prices."
"Music Tribe will serve Sweetwater with global support services as well as spare parts supply directly from our factories, hence drastically improving the product turnaround time.
You can't beat Sweetwater for internet provider support.
This is all good. Back to pricing where it should be and maybe some exclusive sales.
That’s cool. So a dollar a Watt!
A local pawnshop has one of their OLD lead sled amps for $80. Been thinking about what it'd sound like through an eminence speaker instead of those old aluminum cone speakers they'd use that seemed to always sound clanky-but-muddy.
What is the "real" power output of this thing?
Funny but actually it's about 700 watts.
I still have my BX4500H SS head which has a similar layout and is 450w @ 4 ohms. Gotta be careful with the DEEP and Octave functions or yes, you will shred speakers.
The M is the good one too.
I had one of those tube amps that resembles an SVT something. I am so sorry I sold it. Although it was heavy, once it was fired up, it sounded great. I was only obsessed with lightweight amps at the time. If one came up in eBay for cheap I'd buy it again.
Agreed. I've owned one of these and it was very loud! Not too crazy about the tone of the amp in a live setting, but if you want loudness on the cheap, this is it.
Corporate says 500 @ 4ohm
They give these funny power output specs like this: Peak Power Output - 2000 watts, Program Power (whatever that is) - 1000 watts, RMS Power (the only one we really care about) - 500 watts. Other manufacturers are doing the same, giving "Peak" power output, but not telling you it is peak. It is an annoying trend, but now you kinda know how to decode it: the "Program" is RMS x 2 and "Peak" is RMS x 4. For the Bugera and Behringer products, I had to look at the manuals to find out what kind of specs they are giving. The Veyron manual mentions Peak Power at 2000 watts. If so, we get approx. 500 watts RMS.
The combos have that kind of language too. Quoting 1000 watts for a 12 inch combo. Uh... at this price range, no way we have a 12" MI speaker that will survive. But again... it's peak, so really 250 watts RMS.
I found this link that kind of explains these ratings...
RMS Power v Program Power v Peak Power
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