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Buying a bass - New or Vintage ??

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Beammeup, Nov 17, 2002.


  1. Beammeup

    Beammeup

    Oct 7, 2002
    Denmark
    Dear Group,

    I've the last 2 months chased a dream, of me purchasing a Fender Jazz Bass. I currently play a EBMM Sterling - 4 string.

    At first I tried a few Vintage Fender Jazz Basses ('66, '72 and a '73) - none of theese did live up to my expectations :(

    All of the above had a great look n' feel, the '72 had perfect string and play action - but the Pickups seemed to clip, right at "peak-time".

    Now, I have changed my dream a little. I've seen a great offer for a Fender Jazz Bass Deluxe (Active PU's) The price is DKK 12.000 (that would be about $1.620) The Vintage basses I've tried was priced around DKK 20.000 ($2.700).

    What would you do ?
    - Keep chasing the perfect Vintage Fender Jazz Bass ('65-'73) and pay the price, or should buy the new Deluxe at a very fair price ?

    Any recommandations regarding price, sound etc...

    Let me know what to do :D

    Kind Regards

    Henrik Hanfgarn
    Denmark
     
  2. bikeplate

    bikeplate Supporting Member

    Jun 7, 2001
    Upstate NY
    Hi!

    How about a Sadowsky, Lakland Joe Osborne, or Pensa? All great playing and sounding vintage type j basses with new bass attributes

    Rob
     
  3. Beefbass

    Beefbass Guest

    Feb 4, 2001
    Hmm, what he just said.
    If it were me though, and it had to be a Fender, I'd buy the deluxe.
     
  4. Joe Nerve

    Joe Nerve Supporting Member

    Oct 7, 2000
    New York City
    Endorsing artist: Musicman basses, Hipshot products
    I have a MM Sterling also, and a Fender MIA P Deluxe which I believe is somewhat similar to the Jazz deluxe.

    My experience - I play my MM all the time.

    I gave the Fender a really good run for it's money - played it about a year straight, and I'm sorry to say it seems like a toy in comparison with the MM.
     
  5. pyrohr

    pyrohr

    Aug 28, 2001
    Pakistani compound
    As the proud owner of a few fender jazzes I would recommend trying the jazz deluxe. I have recently purchased one used (98) and I just can't seem to put it down. If you like the active jazz bass vibe you must try this. My buddy's have seen me play all type's of fender's and tell me "that's the one". I also have a 75 R.I. s.e. tha is very nice but the dlx get's the time.:D
     
  6. Beammeup

    Beammeup

    Oct 7, 2002
    Denmark
    Hi Guys,

    Thanks for all the good inputs.

    Pyrohr - would you please explain more about your sound in the Deluxe ?

    I'm getting quite close to the buying a Fender Jazz Bass Deluxe :D

    PS: a "stupid" question - What is MIA short for ?

    Kind Regards
    Henrik // Denmark
     
  7. pyrohr

    pyrohr

    Aug 28, 2001
    Pakistani compound
    The sound of the dlx is very distinct. you have total control over bass, mids, and treble freqs without going back to the amp. Cuts thru the mix like nobodys business. Awesome for thump and pop (slapping) or finger style. Should sound great in any type of music:D
     
  8. Joe Nerve

    Joe Nerve Supporting Member

    Oct 7, 2000
    New York City
    Endorsing artist: Musicman basses, Hipshot products
    MIA - Made in America
    MIM - Made in Mexico
    MMS - Music Man Sterling
    MMSR - Music Man Stingray
    M80 - Loud Firecracker
    M16 - Rifle
    M&M - Candy or Rude Rich Rapper
    MMMMMMMM - Tastes good
    MC Hammer - Born Again Ex Pop Star
     
  9. Beammeup

    Beammeup

    Oct 7, 2002
    Denmark
    Hi JN,

    Thanks for that delitefull list. Yes we Danes are stupid :D

    Thnx

    Kind Regards

    Henrik Hanfgarn
    Denmark
     
  10. Beammeup

    Beammeup

    Oct 7, 2002
    Denmark
    Hi Pyrohr,

    Thanx for pointing the details out.

    I feel, that I have decided on buying a bass.
    - I'm going for the Fender Jazz Bass Deluxe.

    Kind regards to all the involved contributors.

    Henrik Hanfgarn
    Denmark
     
  11. I like bikeplate's suggestion to try out new, vintage styled basses, instead of going vintage. Sadowskys, Laklands and Pensas wouldn't be my short list, though, since these brands are awfully rare and expensive over here. But, how about a Celinder? They're made in København and all, so there might be some around on the Danish used market. Other brands to check out, that have some j-type models in about the same price range as the Fender you've looked at is Hot Wire and Marleaux, both German.
    I wouldn't buy the Fender, if it's an American made one, BTW. I don't like the look or playability of them, and the ones I've tried were in need of some fine tuning, and fretwork.
     
  12. toshiya

    toshiya

    Jun 14, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
    if you aren't satisfied with what you've played in the vintage selections, don't go for it. I mean, I'm not saying all the old fenders suck, cuz boy, we know thats not true, but I personally would go for the Deluxe American. Don't do something your gonna kick yourself for later!
     
  13. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    Are you talking about "Re-Issues" of Fender basses? I mean - you would be very very very lucky (or Brad Johnson ;) ) to get an original '66 Jazz bass for the equivalent of $2,700 in Europe.

    I would be thinking five to ten times that amount!
     
  14. Beammeup

    Beammeup

    Oct 7, 2002
    Denmark
    Hi Bruce,

    The '66 i've tried was offered to me, at the price of DKK 50.000 (about $6.777) It was allmost intact. The Case, finish, The strings had been changed once !!!! But the original set was saved :D

    Produced in '66 bought in '69 in DK.

    The two other '72 & '73 was both priced at
    DKK 20.000 ($2.700).

    But I think I'm going for the Fender Jazz Bass Deluxe MIA :D
     
  15. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    Wow - you should have bought that and hopped on a plane to London - where you could have made a big profit selling it to one of the guitar shops in Denmark Street that specialise in vintage instruments.

    Your profit would probably have covered the airfare and a new MIA Jazz bass - free ride!! ;)
     
  16. Beammeup

    Beammeup

    Oct 7, 2002
    Denmark
    Hey Bruce,

    I'm not in it for the profit :D

    Kind Regards
    Henrik // Denmark
     
  17. toshiya

    toshiya

    Jun 14, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
    Bruce Lindfield, author of Workin' the Bass Biz FOR DUMMIES :p
     
  18. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    Not interested in a free bass....hmmmm!

    I have a cousin who lives in Denmark, I'll have to write to him and ask him to look out for vintage Fenders. They are going for huge prices in London - you could make enough money for a free "round the world" holiday! ;)

    Actually - I do agree - I don't buy basses except to play. But I'm just suprised at the big price differences between Denmark and London - worth knowing about, if I ever lose my job or get redundancy.

    I could set up a vintage bass shop/business with my cousin!! :)