Cab off the floor

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by MycooLeeyun, Jan 3, 2018.

  1. I took my Berg HD112 that I didn't like the tone of, and put it on top of my Mesa Subway 115 and all of a sudden I love the tone I'm getting. And conversely, I hate the tone coming out of my Mesa Subway that is on the floor. Just to be clear, I'm only playing through the Berg, the Mesa is not hooked up to my amp. Also, I did not like the tone of them together. There must be something about being on the second story in my apartment building and having a bass cab on the floor that isn't good. Do I just need casters or something to go underneath my bass cab to get a good sound? I tried the Mesa Subway in the store and it sounded fantastic. Brought it home and it sounds like poo now.. I don't get it.

    I'm playing a g&l jb2 through a Genz Benz Shuttlemax 9.2
  2. saltydude


    Aug 15, 2011
    boston CANADA
    I play through a 1x12 Bearfaced cab. Sometimes 2. I recall one gig when I put it on top of a milk crate. It was the best tone I ever had.
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  3. mesaplayer83


    Jun 27, 2017
    Try tilting up a single cab on the floor - makes a big difference how they sound... Regarding the 2 cabs together - some cabs will pair up nicely, others not so much...
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  4. Stumbo

    Stumbo Guest

    Feb 11, 2008
    It's connecting with the floor.

    When the cabs are stacked, put a stand underneath them. Some use foam or sound pad. You can try a pad between them as well as a pad under the amp.
  5. I guess I have to figure out what to put underneath it
  6. An unconnected cab acts as a bass trap at the tuning frequency.

    You might benefit from a hpf3.
  7. el murdoque

    el murdoque

    Mar 10, 2013
    How much elevation is needed for a 112 cab to eliminate ground coupling?
  8. I think just getting it off the ground will do it -- milk crate, chair, commercial decoupler, anything like that. Make sure it's stable, of course.
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  9. TinIndian

    TinIndian Supporting Member

    Jan 25, 2011
    Micco Florida
    I always put a couple of rubber pads under my cab to decouple it from the stage. Big improvement since I started doing that.
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  10. The Chuck

    The Chuck

    Dec 11, 2013
    Wilmington, NC
    I think about 2 feet would do it... maybe 2.5
  11. Killed_by_Death

    Killed_by_Death Snaggletooth Inactive

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  12. el murdoque

    el murdoque

    Mar 10, 2013
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  13. Rick James

    Rick James Inactive

    Feb 24, 2007
    New Jersey
    When the cab's on the floor you won't hear most of the upper mids and all of the highs because they're beaming. Lift the cab up, or tilt it back, and you'll hear what was there all along. It has nothing to do with the cab contacting the floor. Isolation devices don't do what they claim to do. This tells why: Testing Loudspeaker Isolation Products
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  14. mesaplayer83


    Jun 27, 2017
    I have found my fdeck HPF-3 to be very useful in problem rooms - soundmen have liked what it does, too...
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  15. Yeah, I've noticed my tone being very muddy with the cab on the floor
  16. Marley's Ghost

    Marley's Ghost Supporting Member

    Feb 9, 2002
    Tampa, FL
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  17. gregmon79

    gregmon79 I did it for the muff... Supporting Member

    Dec 20, 2012
    Chicago IL
    I just got extra large, heavy duty casters. Considering all the ones I had on my GK Neo cab just kept breaking over time. I've been through 4 sets now and the ones I have on them now are from a big toolbox you'd see in a car repair shop. They are awesome! I have about 6 or 7 inches up off the ground because of them. It's great :D
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  18. mesaplayer83


    Jun 27, 2017
    Try tilting it back - I set mine up like this:

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  19. Stumbo

    Stumbo Guest

    Feb 11, 2008

    When I mount casters, I drill through, and use bolts with nuts/metal washers to secure them.
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