Ok I have searched the threads and gathered as much info before I posted. I currently have (2) Eden 410 XLTS, each cabinet rated at 4 ohms, and an Eden WT-800. My problem is the Eden cabs sound very muddy on the low end.(you will see why later see tuning) I would like to tighten it up and have tried everything. I am ready to switch cabinets out. I heard the Eden cabs are low end muddy and another reason is I am tired of (2) 4 ohm cabs. I can not biamp etc. I am going to keep one of the 410's for small gigs but I need a main rig that kicks. I need to get some specific recommendations on cabinets based on the style of music I play the tuning I use and the examples of bassplayers tones that I like. Some background on me: I play a Warwick streamer 2 and a thumb bolt-on. Both are 5-strings tuned Low A, drop D, A-D-G Looking for a very tight low end I use a pick and also slap I play heavy odd time intricate music I like the tone of the bassist from Mudvayne My guitar player plays a 7-string guitar What do you think? 8-10 cabs, 4-10 and 1-15, 2-12 and 4-10, two 4-10 cabs but just not eden. (I am not a fan of the 2-10 cabs) Then what manufacturer would you recommend to acheive the impossible. Not worried about cost of cabs at this time. Just tone quality and loud loud loud. Thanks for all your input.