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Cabs vs. In ear

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by Squice, Jul 25, 2003.


  1. Are the cabs dying out or?...

    It just seems that most of the time the Bass cabs are just serving as monitors on stage, becouse most of the players are going to PA also. Looks like more and more players are just skipping the boxes and going Ear in. U got superb sound quality if u go In ear and also naturally have all the other instrument there too so the prob.. not hearing someone enough is out of the way.

    I´m in a need for a cab right now, so thats why i´m thinking about whether to go In ear or not. The only thing that i like better about the cabs is that i really like the bass kicking me in the back and also too feel my playing not just hearing it.. :)

    So what are you thougts about the Cabs vs. In ear.
     
  2. wulf

    wulf

    Apr 11, 2002
    Oxford, UK
    If you know that you will always have everyone going through the PA and you will be able to get a usable in-ear mix then I guess you could consider it....

    Personally though, I've not yet had the privilege of playing in situations where such things can be relied upon. Sometimes the cab is just as a personal monitor and sometimes it's the only source of bass for the room! Therefore, I anticipate having my cabs for sometime to come.

    Wulf
     
  3. Ívar Þórólfsson

    Ívar Þórólfsson Mmmmmm... Supporting Member

    Apr 9, 2001
    Kopavogur, Iceland
    Well, the majority of concerts that I have been to here in Iceland they do have a cab onstage which is miked up. Most of the bigger bands have the cabs onstage and use the feed from the mike into their in ear thingy.

    I have not tried both, but I prefer to have the cab onstage, preferably behind me. I just have to feel the thump in my body from it.
     
  4. Well i can´t say that here in iceland i have seen a bassplayer with a miked cab, just seen everybody used their DI. But it doesn´t really matter how it´s done but how the outcome is.. I have always used cabs, and i really think that i will never skip the cabs, but i will prob, try out the ear in but have cab also to have the feel.. Just couple weekends ago i my band was playing with one of the bigger bands here in iceland, and the bassplayer had ear in, He also had a cab, But the funny thing about that was that the cab was broken and it was just for show off, alway nice for the crowd to see huge gears onstage. :) But he just use his head, and DI to the main mixer and then the signal was sent out to a onstage mixer where he could control the sounds of everyone to his ear in. I found the sound a little too thin for my liking becouse like i said, i like the cab kicking me in back. But i also like the idea of being free onstage to go where i want and always here everyone perfectly.
     
  5. fastplant

    fastplant

    Sep 26, 2002
    Connecticut
    I use a cab and an in-ear monitor. The reasons are:

    1. I like the sound of my amp, my better than just a DI box.

    2. Reliability, I had the IEM die on me during a show once and if I didn't have my cab, I wouldn't have been able to hear myself at all.

    3. The others in the band don't all use IEMs, so they also rely on my cab.


    So I wouldn't get rid of my cab anytime soon, but I still go with the IEMs, hope that helps.
     
  6. Petebass

    Petebass

    Dec 22, 2002
    QLD Australia
    I've found people either love in-ears or HATE them. The ones that do use em usually have a seperate mic that picks up ambient gig noises such as the crowd and the rest of the band, then sends it through the in-ears. They're trying to remove that stale isolated feeling.

    I've never tried em so don't read too much into what I say. Maybe hire a set and try em out before you buy anything.
     
  7. fastplant

    fastplant

    Sep 26, 2002
    Connecticut
    I actually like that isolated sound. I wouldn't want any ambient club sounds. That's the reason I have the in ears, to remove everything but the music. The mics on stage pick up enough club noise for me. I would also say try out a set and see what you think before you use them, it did take me a little while to get used to them.
     
  8. xush

    xush

    Jul 4, 2001
    mobile AL
    We're taking the 'band in a rack' approach presently, and it's working out quite well.
    It did take a little getting used to, but I'm comfortable with it now. I'm not playing bass, but I can hear it quite well with the earbuds we use. The bassist is running a couple preamps, but no cabs. It sounds great thru the PA.

    At first, I didn't like the earbuds. I felt isolated, and there can be a lot of tweaking involved. But I've finally gotten used to them, and gotten the levels right, and it really is a good way to hear what you need to hear and ignore what you don't. Sometimes I'll run it mono and pop one side out if I'm feeling particularly lonely.

    There are signal routing issues that may arise which aren't a problem if you're just using a cab for stage monitoring. But I think the space you save, the less things you have to carry, and the lower stage volume all make up for a few more cables and maybe a headphone amp or 2.
     
  9. fastplant

    fastplant

    Sep 26, 2002
    Connecticut
    Be careful when doing that, you tend to run the one side that's in your ear at dangerous levels that you may not realize when on stage.
     
  10. xush

    xush

    Jul 4, 2001
    mobile AL
    fortunately we have no stage volume, so I don't run the headphone amp loud at all. Very low levels in the earbuds, so it's pretty safe. Good reminder though!

    That's one of the best things about this band, they've figured out how to do this with practically no on-stage volume at all. I guess the guitar cab is the only thing, and it's close-miked and run at a low volume. My ears have never felt better.