camera gear fans, any thoughts for me?

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  1. pcake

    pcake Supporting Member

    Sep 20, 2011
    Los Angeleez
    due to wrist damage, for a couple years i've been shooting with a sony a6000 because it's lighter than even canon's tiny DSLR, the SL1. the lenses are nice and lighter than canon's, too, and i can carry it all day with no problems. the image quality is excellent.

    but i have some scarring on my corneas which makes certain kinds of light painful and cause swelling, and unfortunately the biggest problems come from monitors, phone screens and electronic viewfinders, so my beloved a6000 and lenses are up for sale and it seems i have a potential buyer.

    the two top contenders for my next camera are the canon T6s and the pentax K-70 with the K-S2 a runner up.

    the pentax K-70 is a virtual laundry list of features i find useful when i shoot and the lenses, after years with sony and panasonic, are almost stupid cheap while still being good stuff. and the camera has in body stabilization, which is a big plus with my shaky hands. but there's my problem right wrist, which hurts when carrying a camera that heavy (it's not that heavy - my wrist is that weak) after a while. i'm rehabbing the wrist and hand - no telling how long that will take, but i won't be able to do half day beach shoots with it for a while, and there's a small chance i won't be able to, period. also pentax's current warranty company isn't very responsive if something goes wrong. they're legendary for being slow, non-communicative and sending back cameras unfixed.

    the canon T6s is enough lighter to notice, and the grip is really comfortable for me. it has a touchscreen, and i do sometimes use them but not lots. it costs more than the pentax, the lenses all cost more - enough so that it might take me six months or more to finish buying the three to four lenses i'd want since we have a mortgage and less available funds than we used to. it has a smaller viewfinder - pentax's magification is 1x and the canon is .82x - and it lacks pentax's micro focus adjust, pixel mapping and superb low light performance, but i can carry it for a couple hours right now.

    so what would you do - take a shot at the camera that will only be useful for a few minutes at a time or on a tripod but has every feature you ever wanted in a camera or go for one that is a pretty good camera and is ultra comfortable but lacks the big viewfinder, in body stabilization and a few neat and helphul features?
  2. I use a Canon G-16. It's known as a 'bridge' camera.

    I think it will take a couple of other lenses that are available.

    Optical zoom is very good on this.

    This is the best little camera I ever used. I've had lots of cameras and sold all kinds of pics commercially.


    It's ability to shoot in low light and still have a fantastic picture.

    It has built-n flash and also has a "hot shoe" for added flash.

    I never use either because it never is necessary for any pic I've taken so far. No "red eye" problems in pics.

    It has a boatload of other bell and whistles on it too. Movies as well.
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  3. Jeff Scott

    Jeff Scott Rickenbacker guru..........

    Apr 11, 2006
    Out there!
    If you expect your wrist to get better/healed reasonably soon, I'd go with the Canon (been a Canon user since the early '70s - FTbn, AE-1 Program, another FTbn, F-1n, 30D, 6D), and use a monopod unless you have no problems carrying a tripod (my Ries J-100/J-250 tripod weight over 10 lbs.!), but I do have a couple of '80s era aluminum Gitzo tripods, too, that are way less than half that with their respective heads on them.

    Lens quality on all the major camera makers (Canon, Nikon, Olympus, Pentax) are excellent (depending on which series lenses, these days, not so much an issue in the pre-digital era), so features desired/camera body quality are the most important things to look for. Re: low light capability - my Canon 6D is an amazing performer in that area.
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  4. Hopefully your wrist issues will get better. Get the camera you really like best.
    It's amazing how the body can learn to adapt to needs. After all, we used to walk on all fours. Some bass players still do.:roflmao:

    Suggestion... see if anyone has an accessory wrist strap. I have one that mostly just acts as a support so my fingers don't have to do all the holding. My hand is basically in the same position and I still have full use of that hand for camera controls. I have R.A. and have had "carpool tunnels" ;) and used this with an old Minolta SRT 101 and zoom lenses. If those days pre-date your photog experience, just think world's heavyweight contender for heaviest 35 mm film camera of the 60's.

    Another important thing... as our eyes age, we have all sorts of issues with focusing. I'd consider the sharp focus on the Pentax and full 1.0 viewfinder to be important. How is it for brightness?

    Have you ever considered a mono-pod? It will carry the weight and steady the camera and is much easier than a tripod.
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  5. Fleebag

    Fleebag Quacker!

    Sep 7, 2013
    Illinois USA
    What do you shoot? Hobbyist, pro, semipro? What system did you shoot before Sony?
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  6. pcake

    pcake Supporting Member

    Sep 20, 2011
    Los Angeleez
    my husband has a G15 i got him for christmas a few years ago. the OVF is blurry but quite useful for framing, and it does better in low light - not only image quality but faster focusing - than a lot of entry level DSLRs and micro 4/3s cameras. the problem is i shoot birds in flight and other distant subjects, and i didn't find the lens long enough, although it did great for closeups, medium shots and macros. i should probably use his for a while when he takes out his pentax, now you mention it.

    that is a good point, and the one that i keep coming back to. and honestly, i've been a canon shooter since the '70s when the AE-1 came out. my husband has one in a drawer, actually, and we share a couple of his old FD lenses.

    my son bought me a manfrotto monopod a few years ago, but i never really bonded with it. maybe this is the time to get to know it better, and i thank you for mentioning it. also i have a light weight tripod, but possibly too light weight to use outdoors, and my husband's tank of a tripod from the '70s is too much to carry for me. it's definitely time to change my approach, though - at least temporarily - so i can keep shooting.

    the 6D is a great camera - lucky you! full frame is great for low light, and it's so light weight!

    my body hasn't been adapting that well - when i tore my right rotator cuff, i moved to a smaller acoustic guitar from a dread, and my shoulder kept getting worse. hurt my ankle, took a year to get better. things like that.

    great idea about the wrist strap. i have a thick opteca wrist strap i've never used. i'll try it - thanks :)

    i'll be trying the monopod i already own. i didn't like it for my micro four thirds cameras, but they were very light. i think it will be better with a heavier camera.

    hobbyist / enthusiast. before the sony, i was into micro 4/3s, and before that i shot with a canon 30D, and before that other canons. i also use a long zoom nikon for distant birds.
  7. The sports photogs often use mono pods. I'd think for bird photos that would be quite handy. Sounds like you have a couple of possible helpers in your arsenal already. Good luck with the healing process.
  8. pcake

    pcake Supporting Member

    Sep 20, 2011
    Los Angeleez
    i just didn't think outside what i usually do, and the suggestions in this thread have me excited to get my new camera and go shooting asap!

    thank you :)

    you know one of the things i love about talkbass? not only are there are lot of great people to hang out and talk bass stuff with or chat on off topic, but i got great camera advice and suggestions, as well :)
  9. And don't forget...
    Pics or it didn't happen! :smug:
  10. pcake

    pcake Supporting Member

    Sep 20, 2011
    Los Angeleez

    a few from my soon to be sold a6000, and when i get a camera, i guess i could post a NCD post :D

    16129184183_b119a0a202_b.jpg Tusk

    15351105833_e8a3a887ee_b.jpg DSC00277sh

    24128097371_44efec4dc1_b.jpg DSC01891

    24344264442_09107f84ea_b.jpg Great Blue Heron
    (the last one was a dark day but such a cool bird)
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  11. Pilgrim

    Pilgrim Supporting Member

    Monopoly are fantastic. I like them with a quick release feature.
  12. Fleebag

    Fleebag Quacker!

    Sep 7, 2013
    Illinois USA
    No brainer then, go with the Canon since you already have some familiarity with the controls, not to mention they have the best lens selection on the planet.
  13. Grumry


    Jul 6, 2016
    I don't do much of the V. I only get paid for my knowledge of the A.
  14. pcake

    pcake Supporting Member

    Sep 20, 2011
    Los Angeleez

    i know, i know. but the in body stabilization and significantly bigger viewfinder in the pentax is SUCH a temptation. still, the grip on the T6s and T6i is so comfortable, which means better hand stability. had i never seen the pentax specs, i'd have bought the T6s and been totally happy with it.

    V.? A.?
  15. Grumry


    Jul 6, 2016
    Lol, Video and Audio.
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  16. Qlanq


    Jul 9, 2007
    When I'm taking a shot where I have to stay motionless for a few minutes, I will usually hold the camera with my left hand. My shutter-button hand is then just holding itself up ready to take the shot.
    I also have a camcorder support strap which takes the weight of the camera from the hands. Goes around the neck.
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  17. ShadowImage

    ShadowImage Guest

    Jan 12, 2016
    A problem I ran into with DSLRs is when shooting with a digital screen/viewfinder, there is a significant loss in FPS. Using a traditional viewfinder, the shots per second are tremendously faster. That could vary depending on the model but has essentially made shooting with a digital viewfinder impossible for me, especially when speed is paramount. ymmv
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  18. pcake

    pcake Supporting Member

    Sep 20, 2011
    Los Angeleez
    oh, of course - silly me!

    some EVFs have a MUCH faster refresh rate than others. years ago, i had a panasonic FZ150, and while trying to shoot a walking bird, the refresh was so slow that when i saw the bird in the center of the EVF and hit the shutter, the bird was actually gone out of frame - i sold the camera immediately *LOL*

    i've never had that problem with the a6000 EVF or nikon P900 EVF, and i shoot birds in flight, tracking them using the EVF till i see a shot i like, so you know they have very fast refresh rates, although i don't shoot in burst mode but still pretty fast shooting.
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  19. ShadowImage

    ShadowImage Guest

    Jan 12, 2016
    Is the digital refresh rate listed under the camera specs? It's not something I ever considered about until actually shooting in studio and realizing the camera couldn't keep up.
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2017
  20. Linnin


    Jul 19, 2012
    Linningrad, Earth
    Olympus mirrorless micro four thirds is an excellent system. Small and light with fantastic image quality. Not cheap by any means. Zuiko lenses are among the very best.
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