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Can a J and a P happily co-exist?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by ss81, Nov 30, 2005.


  1. ss81

    ss81

    May 29, 2005
    Okay, maybe this topic is a little lame, but ever since I recently acquired a jazz bass (see my earlier thread), things have gotten a little complicated. I also own a precision bass which I love equally, and I'm having trouble deciding which I like better for certain songs. I love the jazz's pick attack and that hiccupy, almost gagging sound it makes (I guess this is what you guys call "growl"), but I also love the precision's thick, upper-midrange "growl" (to my ears, this sounds more "growly" than the jazz, but I guess that's a matter of semantics). There have been so many "P vs. J" threads, and I'd be interested to hear from forumites who own both and use both equally (one bass with a P/J pickup configuration doesn't count :)). Are there certain situations where you go to your precision, and other situations where you go to your jazz? Or do you just grab whichever one you're in the mood for when it's time to head to the gig? Discuss.
     
  2. For me, it's definitely mood. I find that each bass changes my approach a little bit.
     
  3. DanGouge

    DanGouge

    May 25, 2000
    Canada!
    I think you could apply this sort of question to anyone who has more than bass. Active or passive? Fretted or fretless? Modern or vintage? In each case there are objective considerations (the type of music you'll be playing, the vibe that the band wants, etc) but there's also the subjective (what bass "feels" right to you on any given night). In my experience, choosing your weapon is a matter of negotiating those two factors. YMMV.
     
  4. Human Bass

    Human Bass

    Aug 26, 2005
    Dimarzio, Delano, Duncan...all have good P/J combination

    I would try a Delano comb JMVC FE + PMVC FE

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    seems badass!
     
  5. Luis Fabara

    Luis Fabara

    Aug 13, 2000
    Ecuador (South America)
    Audio Pro - Ecuador

    Did you actually read the Initial Post??

    hahahah!!
     
  6. pickles

    pickles Supporting Member

    Mar 23, 2000
    Ventura, CA
    Horses for courses. I have and use both (and many others), and let the song and the mix decide which bass gets played. Over time, you'll get a feel for which bass a song wants, mostly because one or the other will sound wrong and make you want to swap. I also typically run stiffer strings on the precison, and more flexible ones on the J ... for an even wider pallate of sounds and feels (which also makes it more obvious which one to use).

    Then you'll get a stingray and start the process over again :D

    PS. I call that p bass sound a "bark", and the j bass a "growl" or "burp", but yea its just semantics.
     
  7. ss81

    ss81

    May 29, 2005
    Good lord, you can see into my future :eek: !

    Makes sense, I like that word choice.
     
  8. Instead of writing a song about ebony and ivory coexisting, maybe it should be changed to P and J basses. :D they're both double edge blades, but they seem to fill eachother's flaws quite nicely.
     
  9. Luckydog

    Luckydog Supporting Member

    Dec 25, 1999
    I spend 80% of my time with a jazz bass now, and the rest with my old P. WIth classic rock that we do, both will work. Both are very nice, each has its own advantages.
     
  10. Fuzzbass

    Fuzzbass P5 with overdrive Supporting Member

    Variety is wonderful. There's no reason to have a favorite! Same's true for amps, speakers, FX, etc.
     
  11. AGCurry

    AGCurry

    Jun 29, 2005
    Kansas City
    I wouldn't give up either one. But - I do prefer the Precision for recording.
     
  12. MAJOR METAL

    MAJOR METAL HARVESTER OF SORROW Staff Member Supporting Member

    As i read someone who said " A P and a J pick up dont speak the same Language".
     
  13. Philbiker

    Philbiker Pat's the best!

    Dec 28, 2000
    Northern Virginia, USA
    Ha ha ha easy for you to say Fuzz. Your Roscoe Becks can go from a reasonable single humbucker P tone to a twin single coil Jazz sound with the flip of a couple switches. :)
     
  14. ss81

    ss81

    May 29, 2005
    I'm beginning to get that impression myself, I think the P will probably be a better choice for recording most of my band's songs while the jazz seems like it will be good for live performances.
     
  15. Mojo-Man

    Mojo-Man Supporting Member

    Feb 11, 2003
    :cool:
    Yes.
    I love, and use both.
    Lately, I use my jazz, with rounds, for mod. sound.
    Losts of back pickup.
    The P- with flats, for old school sound.
    I tend to play more notes on the jazz?
    Less notes more groove on the P-bass.
    Both those basses, are fretted.
    Funny thing is my 1970 frettless p-bass with jazz pickup,
    Is my main bass.
     
  16. psi

    psi

    Mar 11, 2005
    New Jersey
    Sure, it's called a P-bass Deluxe. P and J pickups on one Fender.
     
  17. tplyons

    tplyons

    Apr 6, 2003
    Madison, NJ
    When I do pit gigs, I carry a Jazz and a Precision in my double bag. Some songs get one, some get the other. Unfortunately, due to finances I had to sell the Precision, so it's only a Jazz for me right now. But one day, it'll be back to having both.
     
  18. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    I'm reminded of a great quote from those genius philosophers of whiner rock, Linkin Park..."In the end, it doesn't even matter."

    The only people who care what kind of bass you play are you and the people who hire you, and more often than not, they don't even care. So play whatever the hell you want to play, and do it to the best of your ability, and that's all that's important. I've played oldies on custom basses with active pickups, and I've played new stuff on old Fenders. There's no reason you can't get a good sound out of any bass made as long as it works.

    And never ever make a decision on what to play based on what people on Talkbass say. Gee whiz, I've never seen so many weird terms to describe sounds basses make...Growl, bite, thwack, throaty, mwah, ping, bang, zoom, ka-pow, etc. I'm wondering if they're talking about basses or Batman shows!
     
  19. BassyBill

    BassyBill The smooth moderator... Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 12, 2005
    West Midlands UK
    Anybody suggest a bass for me that has lots of ka-pow in its tone? I really, really want one of these! :D
     
  20. i would like to add some thwack to my samick p bass... any way of doing this? changing the pick ups perhaps? :smug: