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Can you fight a "street cleaning" ticket, if they don't actually clean the street?

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by tastybasslines, Dec 21, 2012.

  1. tastybasslines

    tastybasslines Banned

    May 9, 2010
    Los Angeles, CA
    I got a parking ticket today for parking during street cleaning. OK, my fault. However, it has come to my attention, that they don't actually clean the street during the posted cleaning times. In fact, they don't clean that street at all.

    Can I fight this? It doesn't sound very ethical to me.
  2. hdracer


    Feb 15, 2009
    Elk River, MN.
    They probably didn't clean the street because you and other people were parked on it.
  3. tastybasslines

    tastybasslines Banned

    May 9, 2010
    Los Angeles, CA
    They didn't clean it the week before, and before that. And I got the ticket only 5 minutes after the start of the posted time zone infraction, so the street sweeper hadn't even arrived yet. The ticket person must have been sitting there waiting, licking their chops. And when I see a street sweeper, they still clean the street, just instead, they drive around the parked cars there.
  4. fmoore200


    Mar 22, 2011
    It is my contention that street sweepers don't actually clean anything, but instead just disburse garbage that has collected in the gutter into a wider area, creating the illusion of cleanliness :atoz:
  5. Yes you can fight. You can also pee into the wind
  6. Tractorr


    Aug 23, 2011
    You would have a much better chance of organizing your community and getting the parking laws changed.
  7. tastybasslines

    tastybasslines Banned

    May 9, 2010
    Los Angeles, CA
    What a helpful crew!
  8. You asked. Sorry but I doubt you'd accomplish anything.
  9. P Town

    P Town

    Dec 7, 2011
    Quit dreamin'
  10. yes you can fight it, but is it worth your time? You would have to take photos of the street every week (with some kind of time indication, I don't think they would pull the exif data just for a case like that) to show that they don't clean it and show it to the judge/magistrate.
  11. SBsoundguy


    Sep 2, 2011
    Los Angeles
    Street sweeping is tough work. Give the game a shot. I'm not sure if you can contest tickets in the sim.
  12. Tractorr


    Aug 23, 2011
    Perhaps, if the OP subpoenaed records of the street cleaners activities (if such a log existed) and they showed that the cleaners didn't actually come at the time of ticket. Again, the cost of hiring a lawyer with expertise to make this happen is probably more than the cost of the ticket.

    Unfortunately, this is how these sorts of city revenue generators work. They know that people won't spend the money to fight them. If you want this not to happen to you or anyone else go to city council meetings, talk to local reps, and call the newspaper. You would be surprised how often talking to a newspaper helps. They are always looking for a good story and parking tickets are something that everybody hates.
  13. Geroi Asfalta

    Geroi Asfalta

    Aug 23, 2011
    That's the way I see it as well....

    I thought video games were already a waste of time.....
  14. kentiki


    May 14, 2008
    It doesn't matter. If its posted. you can't park there.

    In front of my house was a sign, no parking mondays 8am to 10am. I had the day off, ran some errands and upon arriving home saw that the streetsweeper was passing my house. So, I parked on the street even though it was 9:45. Yep, I got a ticket.
  15. Dave W

    Dave W Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2007
    White Plains
    Just send in the ticket as not guilty. They may just drop it. If not, they may ask you to pay less money.

    Worst case, you go to court and talk with the prosecutor. They offer you to pay less money as well. If you aren't willing to pay that, then you go and talk to the judge about it. At that point, it's not worth your time unless the ticket was outrageous.
  16. tplyons


    Apr 6, 2003
    Madison, NJ
    Depends on your local laws. In my town, it is illegal to park on the street between 2AM and 6AM. The way the law written, it is an offense, nothing to do with street cleaning, but that's when they do it.
  17. hrodbert696

    hrodbert696 Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    +1. A lot of the time they'll reduce the ticket, especially if you're polite and businesslike about it rather than being obnoxious. I got a parking ticket cut in half with just a couple of emails to traffic enforcement saying I thought the spaces in question were covered by a "15 minutes free parking" sign that hung on a storefront there. If you tell them that assumed the signs were obsolete because they never clean the street you might get the same.
  18. HaMMerHeD


    May 20, 2005
    Norman, OK, USA
    I would contest it, simply because I can.
  19. yodedude2

    yodedude2 Supporting Member

    good luck fighting the man! perhaps you should ask 'how can i fight this?' instead of 'can i...'

    anyway, to answer your question: you admit you broke the law. now you pay the price. i don't think the judge is interested in your sense of ethics.
  20. eyeballkid


    Jul 19, 2009
    wes virginny
    parking tickets are not about what's "right" they are about making the city money. period.