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Can you have a professional band and fun at the same time?

Discussion in 'Band Management [BG]' started by PauFerro, Dec 25, 2017.


  1. PauFerro

    PauFerro

    Jun 8, 2008
    United States
    You guys are giving me a lot of ideas for new threads...so, here is another one...

    is it possible to run a well managed, professional band, with decent corporate pay and clients, and have fun at the same time? If so, how do you do it?
     
  2. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
    Yes. Work with professional minded people. I've found it to be that simple.
     
  3. StyleOverShow

    StyleOverShow Still Playing After All These Years Gold Supporting Member

    May 3, 2008
    Hillsdale, Portland
    I work regularly with an “iPad” band doing festivals, special/corporate events, casinos and a few club dates. By a large we are employees of the front man but together the band are friends, enjoy each others company and we go to the other bands we all play in gigs as well.

    Not like it used to be but it’s pretty good considering.
     
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  4. eJake

    eJake

    May 22, 2011
    New Orleans
    Any job can be fun with the right people. That being said, it is work and will never always be sunshine and rainbows. As far as how to accomplish this, being with like minded people... hopefully with strong and organized leadership.
     
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  5. LBS-bass

    LBS-bass Supporting Member

    Nov 22, 2017
    California
    I think so, but there are lots of people in the world I'd rather not spend quality time with. As I've gotten older I've started putting more of a premium on how I spend my time, and I don't want to spend it with people I'm unlikely to develop any sort of meaningful friendship with. I was in a band for a year or so as a vocalist with people I had nothing in common with, and the whole experience left me feeling alienated and lonely until I quit and started looking for people to work with that I felt more comfortable around. I'm in a pretty good place with that now, but it's still challenging because sometimes the professional aspects mean that you'll have to do things that you don't really feel that great about.
     
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  6. RustyAxe

    RustyAxe

    Jul 8, 2008
    Connecticut
    Take the music seriously ... each other, not so much.
     
  7. Bunk McNulty

    Bunk McNulty It is not easy to do simple things correctly. Supporting Member

    Dec 11, 2012
    Northampton, MA
    We get along just fine. Our BL just put up this little end-of-the-year video. Corny, cheesy music, but I thought it was kinda sweet of her.

     
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  8. kesslari

    kesslari Groovin' with the Big Dogs Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 21, 2007
    Santa Cruz Mtns, California
    Lark in the Morning Instructional Videos; Audix Microphones
    Playing good music well with low-drama people is fun. Professional (on time, practiced, good communication, good pay) only makes it lower-drama and therefore more fun.
     
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  9. buldog5151bass

    buldog5151bass Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.

    Oct 22, 2003
    Connecticut
    I can't have fun UNLESS it is a professional band.
     
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  10. kentiki

    kentiki

    May 14, 2008
    If it is not fun, you better be making good $$$.
     
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  11. Basshappi

    Basshappi

    Feb 12, 2007
    Tucson,AZ
    If you don't then you're doing it wrong.
     
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  12. Nev375

    Nev375

    Nov 2, 2010
    Missouri
    Professional is a subjective term. Fun is also a subjective term.

    To some people you are probably the least professional person they know.
    To many people, what I consider entertainment is as dull as watching paint dry.

    The trick is to gather either like-minded people or mature-minded people who aren't uncomfortable around those who are different.

    If you aren't a popular personality type or a tolerant person you are going to have difficulty.
     
  13. Kmonk

    Kmonk

    Oct 18, 2012
    South Shore, Massachusetts
    Endorsing Artist: Fender, Spector, Ampeg, Curt Mangan, Nordstrand Pickups, Korg , Conquest Sound
    I find these situations to be the most fun. Professional attitude, everyone shows up prepared, expectations are set up front and you get paid more than a typical bar gig. It's almost impossible to not have fun.
     
  14. 40Hz

    40Hz Supporting Member

    I enjoy doing things with music and performing it. So I almost always have fun playing regardless.
     
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  15. Billy C.

    Billy C. Billy C.

    I AGREE with Basshappi! IF you have to ask that question than you are NOT there yet!! To be a PROFESSIONAL at anything you must make a serious (Lifetime) Commitment with complete DEDICATION! Doing ALL these things takes a deep amount of PASSION & LOVE of what it is you are as a PROFESSIONAL! You can NOT do these things without also ENJOYING and having "Fun" with it as well. If you believe that a Professional may not have fun with what he or She has decided to do with their life, than perhaps you may want to re-examine the definition of "PROFESSIONAL" & "Fun".
     
  16. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    Want to meet our drummer/BL? :D

    You need to resign yourselves to two truisms, and then you can have fun:

    1. Nobody's going to play an obscure track off your favorite album by someone nobody's ever heard of that sold 5000 copies.

    2. You are going to play some songs you don't like because they are crowd pleasers or you will not get work.

    3. Nobody's going to let you sing lead if you suck at it.
     
  17. micguy

    micguy

    May 17, 2011
    You should, if at all possible, work with people that have a good sense of humor. Good humor comes with a good sense of perspective - knowing when it's OK to goof off, and when to be a little serious. Anyone that's been a professional musician long enough has been through enough stuff to know these things.

    Professional musicians generally know that it's work first, fun second, and that you don't get to have real fun until you're secure in the work part.
     
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  18. bassstrangler

    bassstrangler

    Mar 2, 2015
    Are you not having fun? Playing music should be fun. Otherwise why do it? The only time it wasn't fun for me was dealing with a singer and his ego. Fired the singer, fun was had again.
     
  19. And there you go. Right there in one line is probably one of the best pieces of advice on being in *any* band you'll ever see. :)
     
  20. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    Couldn't have said it any better. Pros can be goofballs. The difference between a pro and an idiot is a pro knows WHEN to be a goofball and WHEN to get the job done. If a pro and an idiot are both talented, that's really the only difference. One knows when to get to work.
     
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