can't hear myself

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by appelsauce, Jul 21, 2009.

  1. appelsauce

    appelsauce Guest

    Nov 23, 2008
    hi,

    i starded playing in a band recently (lots of fun).
    but we have some problems: i cant hear the bass line i play no matter how load i put the amp.
    we al have practice amp's (15W,25W,.....), we play very load, sadly no drummer and were all amatures.
    i like playing with my fingers but i have to use a pick to get above the guitars.

    so what are we doing wrong? any advise?

    thanx
     
  2. stylonpilson

    stylonpilson

    Jun 30, 2008
    Reading, UK
    1. Your amp is quite weak. Cut the bass, boost the mids.
    2. If your guitarists are boosting their bass, tell them to stop.
    3. Get a bigger amp.

    S.P.

    Edited to add: or I could just point you to the responses that you got last year which I assume you haven't had the opportunity to look at yet.
     
  3. Small amps never have very good responses, and you may find the practice guitar and bass amps are both quite mid-heavy, so they end up walking over each other's frequency range. Especially if there is more than one guitar, you'll end up being swamped. Not to mention that guitars are typically much louder for the same wattage amp.

    Invest in some quality equipment for starters, get yourself a bigger amp that is a decent brand. Find yourselves a drummer and try to get the band as a whole spend some time working on good sound levels for every instrument so that you can all be heard. If the guitarists are not interested in being anything softer than a 747 then find yourself a new band.
     
  4. appelsauce

    appelsauce Guest

    Nov 23, 2008
    i did look at it but i wanted to buy a decent amp so i could play with a drummer. thats very expensive so i'm doing a summerjob right now. thanx for the advise
     
  5. David Pinton

    David Pinton

    Jul 27, 2008
    Normandie, France
    Builder DPinton Guitars and Basses
    Since you don't have a drummer you have no need to play so loud. Just have the guitarists turn down until you get a good balance. That will allow you to play until you find a drummer and save for a bigger amp. I have a Peavy TNT130 (130w) and it is just enough to keep up with a drummer and two guitarists. I'd like to have more headroom so I'll suggest something around 200w. At this volume we're are all using earplugs of course. You're into music, you don't wanna go deaf.
     
  6. Even if they're playing with the 15W to 25W amps, it takes a ton more watts to get the same volume from a bass. Get a 50+ watt amp, preferably something over 100W, even if they still keep those small amps. Also, it was said before, but make sure the guitarists aren't walking all over your frequencies by boosting up their bass and midrange frequencies.
     
  7. Lesfunk

    Lesfunk Bootlegger guitars : S.I.T. Strings Supporting Member

    Apr 5, 2007
    Florida USA
    ;)one word..."Q tips"
     
  8. +1

    Simplest, quickest solution. Good luck!
     
  9. Stumbo

    Stumbo Guest

    Feb 11, 2008
    Nothing wrong with that. Save money, keep playing with a pick. Lots of bass players do.
     
  10. Ívar Þórólfsson

    Ívar Þórólfsson Mmmmmm...

    Apr 9, 2001
    Kopavogur, Iceland
    Thread moved.

    Oh, and as a rule of thumb, bass players need to have 3x to 4x times watts of the guitar player to be heard equally "loud".
    If the geeetar player has a 100w amp and is blasting it, you'll need 300-400w. etc.
     
  11. NKBassman

    NKBassman Lvl 10 Nerd Supporting Member

    Jun 16, 2009
    Winnipeg, MB, Canada
    +2
     
  12. 4Mal

    4Mal Gold Supporting Member

    Jun 2, 2002
    Columbia River Gorge
    um - get your amp up off the floor. You are probably making your knees deaf ;~) ... It's really hard to hear you amp if you are too close to it. You might try arranging yourselves where you are all facing the line of amps.
     
  13. MIJ-VI

    MIJ-VI Inactive Supporting Member

    Jan 12, 2009
    And/or tilt it back to aim its speaker higher.
     
  14. Marko 1

    Marko 1 Supporting Member

    How does one properly position a 15/25 watt amp? He’d have to put a strap between two of them and wear them like earphones.

    He needs a bigger amp. Positioned well, yes, but a much bigger amp.
     
  15. JimmyM

    JimmyM

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    My 25w B-15 would argue with you...well, not really ;) It's a much bigger 25w than a practice amp. Yeah, to get jamming and stuff, you should step up to at least a 210, 112 or 115 combo and 100w or more. There are a lot of good ones for cheap, except Behringer. If you can find an amp with more wattage that's a good deal, get it...300w is considered good for most situations. I've seen guys put rigs you could play anywhere with for $300 or less.
     
  16. MIJ-VI

    MIJ-VI Inactive Supporting Member

    Jan 12, 2009
    Hang it like a Japanese lantern? :D

    I like the earphone idea. :bassist:
     
  17. R Baer

    R Baer Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jun 5, 2008
    President, Baer Amplification
    Buy an SVT. You have to show those guitarist who's boss right from the start! :bassist:
     
  18. tpmiller08

    tpmiller08 Guest

    Mar 15, 2009
    Boston, MA
    Umm maybe I missed something here. But if theres no drummer....have the guitarist(s) TURN DOWN. Problem solved. You all need better gear if you plan on getting a drummer, rule of thumb is to double what guitar wattage.

    probaly want something around 100-300 watts at 4 ohms to hear the bass clealy over the drums. But then again, I've heard a 80 watt peavey combo bass amp blow away a 250 watt half stack. So make sure you try stuff out before you buy it :bassist:

    -Troy
     
  19. Ruckus13

    Ruckus13 Guest

    May 19, 2009
    Tell those gui****s to turn their **** down they aren't Dimebag. Their parents will thank you! :D