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Caring for your rig during/after gigs and parking lot safety.

Discussion in 'Band Management [BG]' started by FingerDub, Feb 8, 2017.


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  1. jerry

    jerry Doesn't know BDO Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 13, 1999
    Don't put vanity/musician type bumper stickers [Fender, bass players do it deeper etc.] on your car, it's an advertisement for thieves. Also be vague when talking to people you really don't know at the bar about were you live.
     
  2. Ox Boris

    Ox Boris Banned

    Nov 23, 2015
    Australia
    I think the gig is the pinnacle of what I do as a musician, I wouldn't do it with old/cheap gear I don't mind losing.
     
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  3. mellowinman

    mellowinman Free Man

    Oct 19, 2011
    Minneapolis
    Seriously, some days it is better to just go ahead and learn something.
     
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  4. Could the gun toting faction just leave it all out please. Then there's nothing to comment on, thread survives.

    I probably have the safest load out of anyone. Chance of car being broken into outside the gig, roughly nil. Still I feel better taking everything at once in case of robbery off the stage, almost equally unlikely and I never heard of anything locally, but I spend too much time on TB.

    Much more chance of an amp taking a walk than a bass than a cab if priorities need setting.
     
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  5. 2112

    2112

    Apr 30, 2005
    While the 3 terms are often used interchangeably, they are three separate crimes. Many times the crimes are committed simultaneously, but they are still 3 different things. Burglary is breaking into and entering a vehicle or structure with intent to commit a crime. Theft (larceny) is stealing. Robbery is theft by force. The classification of a crime as robbery has nothing to do with the amount or value of the property stolen.

    Somebody breaking into a house and stealing stuff is burglary & larceny, but not robbery. If they threaten someone inside the house while stealing stuff, then it's burglary & robbery. If they break in and threaten the occupants without stealing anything (home invasion) then it's typically charged as a first-degree burglary. If they go in through an unlocked door, whip up a batch of pot brownies, sit down and play your bass, but don't take it with them when they leave, then it's maybe just burglary, but since they didn't commit a crime while inside it may just be considered trespassing.
     
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  6. Glad to live in Centra WI sometimes. Pretty safe overall and can't think of the last situation where we had a huge concern about gear theft.

    The only place we leave any gear in a vehicle overnight is one casino we play. There's a camera every 6 ft in that place and the parking lot is constantly patrolled by security and tribal police. As safe as it is, I still never leave my basses in the vehicle but I could if I wanted.
     
  7. I get stuff off the stage and packed relatively quickly, partly because I usually don't need to hang around. I'm careful to transport each set of gear, load and lock the vehicle before going back in for another load. My band doesn't play bar gigs, usually we're at more family-oriented events, so that eliminates much of the risk. We also tend to load in groups and cover for each other if there's an open vehicle for a few minutes.

    When I get home, I unload immediately. I live in a great neighborhood on a private street, so there's 99.9% chance I could leave the car unlocked overnight with my gear in it and have no problem, but I don't take chances. The simple answer is not to make it easy for anyone.

    And an editorial and legal-ish comment: I'm an ex-reserve deputy with a carry permit and plenty of things I could carry. I seldom do. I don't care what anyone wants to steal, that doesn't justify me or anyone else using a firearm. Deadly force is not justified to prevent the kind of theft under discussion; only an immediate threat to my personal safety or someone else's personal safety could justify that. Equipment (including my 1963 P) can be replaced; people can't.
     
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  8. catcauphonic

    catcauphonic High Freak of the Low Frequencies Supporting Member

    Mar 30, 2012
    Seattle WA
    If they don't wreck or take anything and leave me some brownies, I might not press charges :D
     
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  9. Here in Colorado, if you eat the brownies, you may not care about pressing charges.....
     
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  10. Nothing gets left in the car ever and I don't drink so not an issue.
    I am very aware of my surroundings and I'm a mirror watcher so if I realize I am being followed I, will hit the cell phone and drive you to the nearest police station, If I don't notice you till I am home the police officer friend of mine who lives across the street from me is a speed dial away. I am part of the neighborhood watch so I have my cameras email alerts like 3:50 this morning this little opossum got caught by the motion detector :)
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  11. catcauphonic

    catcauphonic High Freak of the Low Frequencies Supporting Member

    Mar 30, 2012
    Seattle WA
    Book em! :)

    Our neighbor two doors down has one of those with alerts that go to her phone. She keeps getting woken up after midnight by our black cat with a snap of him texted to her. Coincidentally , his name is Midnight :smug:
     
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  12. devnulljp

    devnulljp Supporting Member

    Oct 13, 2009
    BC, Canada
    Admin on the D*A*M Forum
    I feel sad for you all living like this.
     
  13. Agreed, but that is the reality of the BS happening today. When I was a kid none of the doors were locked I don't even think the "deadbolt" was even a thing? People respected others property now you do what you have to keep your family and your stuff safe.
     
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