Okay, I've noticed a few TBisms, so to speak. "troll" was easy to figure out... I now know what it means to be "fuqua'd" after seeing Ed go off on that Vulcan` kid...rather entertaining ... The TabCrawler bashing now makes sense after spending ten minutes there... However, I cannot for the life of me figure out the "carrots" thing. Somebody always throws it out when a thread is just useless or stupid, but being the inquisitive soul I am, I must know the origin! Please enlighten.