I am selling my all tube Mesa Boogie Buster wedge combo amp. The main reason is it's like 100 pounds and too heavy to move around. Not only because of it's weight but the distribution of the weight is not centered. Also with just two 10's it lacks the low end even though it has this killer EV speakers that weigh a ton. I want something lighter but still to have a full sound. I have narrowed by choice to two setups that both have four 10 cabinets. 1. The Eden E410C. Eden E Series Combos - E410C I like this amp because it weighs only 68 pounds. Interesting enough it has a four 10 cabinet and amp built into a combo. My son as the smaller E Series amp that has a 15 with tweeter and it sounds good. So I can just imagine this amp with more watts and four 10's sounding even better. It has no pre amp tube though I am not sure how much a difference one would make. The tweeter is on top of the amp since it is not as tall as the Carvin cabinet. This actually may be a better design? It also cost about $300 less than the Carvin setup. 2. The Carvin B2000 with their BRX cabinet. The four 10 cabinet weights 76 pounds so it is still managable. The cabinet is similar is length, but the Carvin is 18 deep while the Eden is 24. However the height on the Carvin is 27 and the Eden is 16. Not sure how this will affect things. I am leaning towards the Carvin since with having a separate head, you can switch to different cabs in the future. Plus it has more pre amp tube that can be turned on or off. Has anyone actually heard these two amps? It is more likely that I will have to buy it without trying either out, though Carvin has a return policy I am sure the store that sells Eden on line will allow me to try it out the Eden as well.