Carvin R600 Protect mode?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by jaxom, Jul 14, 2013.

  1. jaxom

    jaxom

    Aug 31, 2008
    New Castle, PA
    So my band had it's first show last night. I played my Carvin R600 bridged into a swr 115 & a swr 410. Master volume was between 1 & 2. Kept shutting off on me (going into protect mode?) I would turn the power switch off then back on and it would come back on. I believe it was over heating. I've gigged it many times but I always used the Bi-amp mode. Now what?
     
  2. What is the impedance of each cab ?

    The Carvin cannot be bridged into a load less than 4 ohms.
     
  3. jaxom

    jaxom

    Aug 31, 2008
    New Castle, PA
    They were both 8 ohms...
     
  4. Fan comes on?
     
  5. Floyd Eye

    Floyd Eye Inactive

    Feb 21, 2010
    St. Louis
    I used to use an RL1000. They tell you different on the Carvin forum, but I don't think these amps like being bridged at all. Mine always ran very hot in bridge mode.

    In light of the cab mismatch, I suggest you run it the way it was intended to be run. Bi-amped. That way you can control how much power you are feeding the 115.
     
  6. jaxom

    jaxom

    Aug 31, 2008
    New Castle, PA
    I checked the fan today and it is working.

    Floyd Eye - I run it in bridged mode cause I always hated the Bi-amp mode, was always adjusting knobs, was never happy with the sound... It is about 9 years old, maybe its just time to look for a new amp?
     
  7. In bi amp, where is your amp 1 and 2 levels set, also, if your bass heavy on your eq the r600 may go into protect mode. Atleast mine would.
     
  8. Floyd Eye

    Floyd Eye Inactive

    Feb 21, 2010
    St. Louis
    You can get the same tone running it full range. The only thing bridging is doing is upping the power.

    My advice is to at least get matching cabs or just do the inevitable and get an Ampeg 810. As far as the head is concerned, I think the RL heads were the best ones Carvin made. I still have my RL1000, it is my backup rig, although the preamp section is blown. I only noticed it was blown by accident as I always used an RBI. The problem is that Carvin will not service these heads and paying a tech to fix them will cost more than the head is worth. You can still find them pretty easily on the used market, but if I were you I wouldn't bother. There are so many amps out there that are so much better.
     
  9. Floyd Eye

    Floyd Eye Inactive

    Feb 21, 2010
    St. Louis
    Also, if I remember correctly, Carvin specs say you can run that head @ 2 ohms.
     
  10. Floyd Eye

    Floyd Eye Inactive

    Feb 21, 2010
    St. Louis
    These knobs do nothing in bridge mode.
     
  11. I know
     
  12. jaxom

    jaxom

    Aug 31, 2008
    New Castle, PA
    never had a problem in bi-amp just didn't like the sound...
     
  13. jaxom

    jaxom

    Aug 31, 2008
    New Castle, PA
    it can run in 2 ohms, but not when bridged..
     
  14. Then run the amp in dual mono mode (bi-amp/crossover disabled).

    At least that way you can balance the power your running into the mismatched cabs.
     
  15. 5port

    5port

    Oct 14, 2009
    LI,new yawk
    ^^^ this ^^^

    and remove the fan cover, vacuum out the heatsink.
     
  16. Thats why I asked, I had a hard time getting a good 'live' tone in biamp. So I started running full range bridge mode, was using the carvin 2x10 andand 1x18 cabs. Had to cut back on the low freqs to keep the amp from going into protect mode even though the cabs
    didnt go below the min load rating. Still couldnt get a great tone, but it was better.
     
  17. Floyd Eye

    Floyd Eye Inactive

    Feb 21, 2010
    St. Louis
    You can go full range without bridging.
     
  18. Insignificant if you cant get a good tone biamped. My issue was the cabs, not the ohms rating, but very weak cabs causing me to eq in lower freqs which lead to the amp going into protect mode to get decent tone, then when eq'ing out the lower freqs it just wasnt sounding good at all.

    I eventually purchased one Avatar 4x10 and never had another problem or needed a second cab.
     
  19. Floyd Eye

    Floyd Eye Inactive

    Feb 21, 2010
    St. Louis
    This don't surprise me at all.
     
  20. BassmanPaul

    BassmanPaul Inactive

    I've been using "stereo" amps since the Seventies. I've never felt the need to bridge any of them. I run in parallel with one cabinet on each channel.

    Possibly your problems with the sound is the terrible mix of a 1x15 and a 4x10. The 1x15 simply cannot keep up with a much more efficient 4x10 in any regard.