don't ever deal with these guys folks, they're thieves. i ordered an ati video card from them that was found to have a manufacturer's defect. i contacted ati about the issue, and they instructed me to get a refund for the card - it was an issue with the card and the motherboard i intended to use it with. when i contacted datavision, they told me they don't accept returns on video cards, contrary to their listed policies on their webpage. bull####. i searched their policies before ordering, and there was no such policy listed on their website - i would've never ordered from them if there had been. i've already filed with the ny bbb, but i don't have high expectations for that. so now i'm stuck with a $250 working video card that just does not work with my computer, unless i want to file in small claims court. so beware folks, these guys suck.