cedar as a body wood?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by steve-o, Aug 7, 2002.

  1. steve-o

    steve-o Guest

    Apr 17, 2002
    would this be all right as a wood? it will be painted over. or i might put a piece of quilted maple over it.
    how about the neck?

  2. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

    Yeah, if you're talking about Spanish cedar especially. Fine classical guitars are made with it as are some nice basses. It's similar to mahogany in many respects. I've seen it used on classical guitars as a fretboard board but not as the sole neck wood on a bass.

    On basses, it is often paired with a harder, heavier, wood of greater strength. So, your maple would be a good choice to enhance it.

    BTW, it has a natural bug repellant, in case insects are a problem where you play! :D

    If you're talking about Canadian red cedar, I don't know. Hambone and Suburban know a lot about many woods and might be able to help you out.
  3. Christopher


    Apr 28, 2000
    New York, NY
    Cedar is a sweet topwood for acoustic guitars. I don't know what a big 1" + thick slab would sound like, though.
  4. Tsal


    Jan 28, 2000
    Finland, EU
    Finnish guitar builder Ruokangas Guitars uses spanish cedar as body wood. According to Juha Ruokangas, it improves especially sustain, and their reviews in guitar mags have noted that too.

    BTW. Yep, it's all natural insect repellant, that's why cigar case interiors are made from it.
  5. patrickj


    Aug 13, 2001
    Baltimore, MD
    <img src="http://www.roscoeguitars.com/images/Cedar_Body.jpg" width=600 height=358>


    Roscoe guitars
  6. punkfunkfreak


    Dec 16, 2001
    that is my dream bass right ^^^^^^^there!


  7. steve-o

    steve-o Guest

    Apr 17, 2002
    is that spanish cedar? or is that regular cedar?

  8. Hilikus


    Jul 29, 2002
    Wales UK
  9. xush


    Jul 4, 2001
    mobile AL
    my FBB fretless has spanish cedar wings with a flamed maple top. The cedar reminds me alot of mahogany, but it smells nicer.

    I gots no complaints with the maple over cedar recipe!

    that's the front of it over there in the avatar.

  10. geshel


    Oct 2, 2001
    I believe the wood used for acoustic tops is Western Red Cedar, which is a softer wood like spruce. Indeed Spanish Cedar is a harder wood (is it actually a hardwood, or is it still a conifer?) more like mahogany, and is what Roscoe and FBB use sometimes as body woods.

    OK, I just looked it up, and Spanish Cedar is a hardwood (deciduous tree)!


    So I'm not sure if there's any relation at all between the two cedars.
  11. Clear Red Cedar is a legitimate wood for solidbodies but used alone it is a bit too soft to provide good dent resistance. And the way we tend to bash around with these things, it wouldn't be long before you had a real "distressed" body. IMO it would be best used as a core with harder woods on the back and face.

    I intend to build one like this. We get really nice clear red cedar here and wind up using it for sandblasted signs - what a waste :rolleyes: I've got some that is perfectly quartersawn with an average of 17 rings to the inch, nice and dense but still too soft for use even under a thick poly finish. I'll use something like a ¼" figured top plate and something less extravagant in the same size on the back. The real benefit is weight savings and, what I would think, is a really responsive body. Like the old alders in some of the early Fender basses. The piece I have here is 2" x 8" x 14 and weighs about 14 oz. That's nice and light and I would expect the completed body to come in under 3 lbs.

    By the way, this stuff works as easily as butter with sharp tools. Really nice to route and sands as smooth as a baby's butt!
  12. Tsal


    Jan 28, 2000
    Finland, EU
    Don't sniff it too much.. The wood's poisonous, especially if you inhale the dust. That's why it repels insects.
  13. steve-o

    steve-o Guest

    Apr 17, 2002
    you all have my hopes high now on how this is going to work.
    i just need to find a top and back wood to go with it if it is really soft.
    does it matter how old it is to how soft it is?
    these pieces of wood are over 10 years. nice and dry. how does red cedar look cleared over with poly?
    thanks for your help

  14. steve-o

    steve-o Guest

    Apr 17, 2002
    so is that red cedar or spanish cedar on this bass?[​IMG]
  15. adrian garcia

    adrian garcia

    Apr 9, 2001
    las vegas. nevada
    Endorsing Artist: Nordy Basses, Schroeder Cabs, Gallien Krueger Amps
    that there Roscoe would be eastern cedar- dont know much about the difference between spanish cedar or easter cedar, but some VERY fine Roscoe are spanish cedar including the skb6 hes working on for me right now-
  16. steve-o

    steve-o Guest

    Apr 17, 2002
    so is eastern cedar the same as red cedar?
    if so wow!!!!! i want to make as many as possible!!
    that just looks awsome!!

  17. Casey C.

    Casey C.

    Sep 16, 2000
    Butler, PA, USA
    wha? :eek: Cedar can be a beutiful wood, go natural!
  18. steve-o

    steve-o Guest

    Apr 17, 2002
    even red cedar?
    if it looks like the roscoe up top i will do natrual!!

  19. Suburban


    Jan 15, 2001
    lower mid Sweden
    I believe I just posted something in this thread - but in another forum:confused:

    Cedar is good body wood. But, as it is soft I would consider top and back in some other wood - or - blasfamy (sp?) - a really hard coating.
    I would only use it as body wings on a neckthru, because it is not very stiff. But then, I want sustain from a solidbody. If I want thump, I choose a hollowbody set-neck.
  20. steve-o

    steve-o Guest

    Apr 17, 2002

    this is almost the shape i am making. i hope he doesn't mind. i if i had the money i would buy one from fbb.
    well i wanted to put a moses neck on the bass that is why i wanted to know if it would be all right as a bolt on.
    does moses make a neck for a neckthrough?
    who does make one for sale?
    is there anything i can do to make it strong enough to make it a bolt on?