I want to buy a 12 string guitar and tune it from B to C so I can basically play it like a piccolo bass. I could care less as to whether or not people think that's stupid, it's just what I want to do. I also could really care less about the brand or condition of the guitar, as long as its playable and cheap. I was looking into Rogue Herringbones but it looks like those were discontinued a while ago. Does anybody know of any cheap brands that I could buy from, or better yet, does anyone have a crappy (but playable) old beater twelve string that they want to dump off for $60? $60 is the price I'm looking for, but I'll go up to $80 if I have to. I know this is probably ridiculous, but hey, I figure there's no harm in asking. Anybody got any ideas?