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Cheapo 4x10 cab, and head.

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Tritoch, May 4, 2001.


  1. Tritoch

    Tritoch

    Sep 9, 2000
    Hey guys, i was just wondering if anybody knew of any heads or 4x10 cabints that are cheap as crap, im not really looking for tone, just cheap. i dont make money worth crap. and i need to "strech the buck". the reason im asking about 4x10 cabs is because i need to match a rock drummer, And if im going to spend some money, then i might as well get 4x10's. ive been in a band for about 1 year now, always useing someone else's amp, or going tru the PA. And ive already looked at Carvin, but the last ime i ordered from them, the service really sucked. and i never got my package. any help or Sugjestions well be apreesheated. (I know those wernt spelled right, and i dont care.)
     
  2. Used gear usually houses the best deals. Some less expensive companies are: peavey, hartke, yorkville, and carvin. I'm not sure you'll need a 4x10 to cut through drums though. i've used a carvin 15" with a r600 head and my yorkville 15" with only 300 watts and they cut through fine without cranking the volume knob above 4.
     
  3. Tritoch

    Tritoch

    Sep 9, 2000
    Oh, i didnt mean to say that i NEED 4x10's to cut thru drums, i just ment that i wanted 4x10's cuz they can. i was going to get a 15 inch, but i love 4x10's, i had the chance to play with some a while back, and i love how punchy 4x10s are. i cant find many places in Northeast Lousaina that sell used stuff. know any good websites? Beacuse buying used stuff is not bellow me.
     
  4. Aenema

    Aenema

    Apr 18, 2001
    Michigan
    yeah definitely check http://www.ugbm.com they have some fender 410 cabs for pretty cheap and some good used heads.
     
  5. captainpabst

    captainpabst

    Mar 18, 2001
    Tennessee
    cheapest new heads:
    Gallien Krueger 400rb (expect 450-490)
    Hartke 3000, 3500, 4000 (400-500)
    Carvin r600 (570)
    Peavy Nitrobass/Firebass (dunno $)
    Fender bassman 400 (550-ish)
    swr workingman's 200W (not sure but not 2 much $)

    cheapest new 4x10 cabs:
    Carvin 4x10 (399+ship)
    Fender 4x10 (409+ship)
    Sunn 4x10 (439+ship)
    Hartke TP 4x10 (400 i think, but try for XL series)
    Peavy (dunno $)
    Nemesis 4x10 (made by eden - 490 from riks)

    check these sites:
    bassnw.com
    riksmusic,com
    musiciansfriend.com
    parkwaymusic.com
    samash.com
    carvin.com
    bass palace
     
  6. Ok, i know that i'll have around $1,000 by the end of summer and i was also thinking of buying a 4x10.

    i've narrowed it down to one cab:
    -Carvin RL410T
    ($400... 4x10, power handling: 600W)

    and a couple heads:
    -Carvin R600
    ($570.....600W)
    -Gallien-krueger 400RB-III
    ($450...240W)

    Now if i get the R600, will 600 pure watts be coming out of the 4x10? Or will it be less than 600w? ----Or should i just throw in the extra $80 and get the R1000 (1,000w)?
     
  7. MikeyD

    MikeyD

    Sep 9, 2000
    The Carvin 4x10 is an 8-ohm cabinet. If you buy the Carvin R600 and run it bridged into the 4x10, Carvin claims it will push 500 watts into that load. If you buy the R1000, you'll get 700 watts. Either will probably be okay, as long as you do not overdrive the amps into clipping or feed too much low freq. into the cabinet (and thereby cause excessive cone excursions). As far as "pure" goes, that's subject to debate. I think Carvin's power ratings are somewhat liberal, because they are done at 1% THD (distortion) at 1 kHz. In my opinion, you might expect maybe 80% of that as undistorted power over the normal bass frequency range. This means more like 400 watts and 560 watts from the R600 or R1000, respectively. If you are into very loud music - and particularly if you stay with Carvin cabinets (IMO kind of inefficient), I'd recommend going with the R1000.
    - Mike
     
  8. afroman

    afroman

    Aug 31, 2000
    Brooklyn, NY
    I have a Hartke 3500 (350 watts) that I got for $372 at www.music123.com
    and I bought a Peavey 410TXF (new-model, handles up to 700 watts)) for $460. You can probably get the Peavey for less.

    I'm very happy with this rig, specially since I didn't spend a lot of $$$$.
    You can also go look for used heads and cabs but always try them before you buy. If you get a money-back garantee, even better.

    Good Luck...


    Let us know what you buy.
     
  9. virtual.ray

    virtual.ray

    Oct 25, 2000
    You may also want to look at the Ampeg BSE 410 hlf,which can be found new for around $500.I was impressed.
     
  10. I also have the hartke 3500 head, but with the SUNN 4X10 cab. i bought the head used ($250) and the cab new ($350). it's an amazing rig for the price and done well for over 2 years and alot of gigs. i am looking to upgrade to a more powerfull amp, but it sounds like the 3500 would give you what you are looking for.
     
  11. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania
    I'll fill in some of your blank areas.
    basscentral.com is a great place also.
    And Peavey 4x10's are $450 or so (it's around what I payed for mine)

    Peavey Firebass is $450 also... or atleast what I payed for mine. And I've herad people mention them being around $500

    Both sound very good.
    I like the sound of the Peavey 410TXF (or TVX) with the Firebass. Has a really well rounded sound.
    Oh yeah, the nitrobass is around $400 I think. I recall asking about one a while back.