Checking out Gear on 48th St. in NYC

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Dr. Cheese, Jan 6, 2009.

  1. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    I was in town for business until from Thursday 1/1 to Monday 1/5. Although business kept me occupied for a day and half, I had some time to be a tourist, and one of my favorite tourist activities is checking out music shops. I went to Sadowsky over in Brooklyn on 1/2, which was quite a trek. I ended up walking the last mile or two because the instructions I had from my hotel left me on 408 Jay Street, when Sadowsky's shop is on 20 Jay Street!:atoz: Oh well, I had a nice aerobic workout.:D Too bad, the shop was closed until today when I had to catch a plane back to STL. Fortunately, I got to check out three sweet Metros at Manny's. I brought my Fender Jazz Deluxe along so I could finally do a direct a/b. I was surprised, that I actually liked the Fender's slap tone a bit more (it was more Fender like, while the Sadowsky sounded a tad too edgy for me.) I also felt my Fender's neck really felt pretty good when a/b'ed to the Sadowsky. Where the sadowsky crushed the Fender was finger style tone. It was incredibly punchy and full! It is no wonder why Sadowskys are so popular for studio work. That fingerstyle tone was absolutely perfect!:hyper:

    That was not it for Metros though. I was ready to leave when I saw a Seventies Style Metro hanging on the wall, and when I played that bass, I knew I had found what I was looking for! The body was a bit larger, the slap tone was perfect, and I was in love! I am seriously considering selling my Fenders and Sadowsky Preamp, and buying that Seventies style Sadowsky. I have been flirting with the idea for years, but now that I have played one, I know it is the bass for me.

    I also got to check out some other cool basses too. I played a J/MM five string Godlyke bass. It is very nice looking and well made. The price of $1210 or so is great too. I just am not feeling J/MM basses anymore, and I have to admit that if I wanted a J/MM without coil switching, I could pick up a Peavey Millennium for much less while still having the same quality, just narrower string spacing. I also got to play a used Streamer Six Broadneck at Sam Ash. It is a lovely bass, but I could certainly live without one. I also played a Streamer $$ 5 at Rudy's, and I could live without it too. I was impressed with an active Custom Shop Fender Jazz four, but liked the Sadowsky just a bit more. The basses that I felt are totally underrated, however, are the Pensas! I played two at Rudy's, the newer one with 17 or 17.5 mm string spacing and Nordstrand pickups was the bomb except that it was $4,000!:eek: That bass was comfortable and had tone for days. I know many swear by 19mm spacing, but I didn't miss a beat playing it. There was an older Pensa with 19mm spacing, but a neck profile that was a bit too fat for my taste. What some luthiers don't understand, but Sadowsky and Lakland have mastered is the wide spaced neck with a thin and flat profile. Necks like that are effortless to play, IMO. The older Pensa also sounded weaker since it DiMarzios instead of those hot Nordstrands. All things considered, I think Pensa deserves more love, they are wonderful boutique Jazzes.
     
  2. kesslari

    kesslari Groovin' with the Fusion Cats Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 21, 2007
    Santa Cruz Mtns, California
    Lark in the Morning Instructional Videos; Audix Microphones
    Doc, for a man with GAS you live dangerously... :D

    Glad you had time to have some fun on your work trip, and that you found a great bass for you. I hope that things come together for you to get it.
     
  3. Oberion

    Oberion Inactive

    Jun 22, 2008
    Brooklyn
    Glad you enjoyed yourself Doc. But all I gotta say is 19mm all the way:D
     
  4. register2

    register2

    Nov 15, 2003
    I was stopping by Manny's that day and saw you there! You were wrapping up and I was the guy with the huge moronic glasses standing there staring at all the basses. So it IS a small world after all.
     
  5. madbassplaya

    madbassplaya

    Dec 28, 2007
    let us know if you get that Sadowsky! I'd like to see it.
     
  6. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    I forgot to mention that another bass that really impressed me was a KSD Six string at Rudy's. It was only $895, and I see they are made in China now. The neck on it was nice and the fret work was fine. It got a nice, Fendery sort of tone, and it has true single coils. The preamp is a step or two down from higher end basses, but I think it is a great value, and I would be proud to gig one if I were so inclined.:bassist:
     
  7. Jeff K

    Jeff K Supporting Member

    Jul 9, 2005
    Memphis, TN
    Doc, was that a Metro UV70 that got you weak in the knees?
     
  8. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    I had to check the website. Yes, it was a UV70.:)
     
  9. Baird6869

    Baird6869 Supporting Member

    I was a 19mm guy until I bought my Roscoe. 17-18mm for me from now on (and 35" scale!) and I slap a lot. Narrow spacing is fine for slap once you get used to it (IME anyways).

    P.S. I played a couple of Pensas in Toronto a few months back and they blew me away. THe quality is as good as any of my basses (EBMM, Sadowsky, Roscoe, Fender, etc). The price stopped me from buying though. Really expensive IMO.

    Sounds like a good trip to NYC (my favorite city)!!!
     
  10. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    I have owned about three or four SR5s and Peaveys over the years, so narrower string spacing is not an issue for me, but I like the wider spacing too. I guess i'm just wishy washy!:oops:
     
  11. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    Are you a slim guy with dark hair? I think I remember you!:)
     
  12. Sadowsky

    Sadowsky Commercial User

    Nov 1, 2000
    New York City
    Owner: Sadowsky Guitars Ltd.
    Sorry we missed you! Next time give us a head's up that you are in town and check the website for any holiday hours. Glad you liked the UV70 Metro!

    roger
     
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  13. Jeff K

    Jeff K Supporting Member

    Jul 9, 2005
    Memphis, TN
    I'm basically a fingerstyle player, but I love my UV70. Mine has the hum-cancelling pups. In my case, it's a bit of a waste because I've found that I prefer the pickup selector centered. On my Fender Jazzes (which are NOT hum-cancelling), I always favor one or the other pup. So ironically, I get this beautiful Sadowsky, and don't even take advantage of the hum-cancelers because it sounds so great centered. (Sigh...) ;)
     
  14. register2

    register2

    Nov 15, 2003
    Hello - yes I am scrawny and my hair is dark, so it must have been me. I'm glad to see that the people on this forum do actually exist and aren't just a figment of my imagination.
     
  15. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    With the budget cuts, I don't know when I will have another business trip to the Big Apple, but I do hope to meet you one day. You are a person I truly admire. Your UV70 is simply perfect. There was nothing on that bass I would change.:)
     
  16. Metropolis_488

    Metropolis_488 Supporting Member

    Jun 12, 2006
    Connecticut
    I know for a fact that pensa basses are just parts from USA Custom Guitars. I was still living on the upper east side when they started assembling them there at the shop - it's actually how I found out about USACG.

    Frankly, though USACG has a smaller selection than the turtle boy, Tommy's woods are better.
     
  17. pedulla-2007

    pedulla-2007 Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2008
    texas
    Correct me if I am wrong but the bridge pickup on the UV 70's is closer to the bridge itself which is exactly where I play. I am blessed to have a sunburst with black inlays and bindings which I believe is fairly rare or I have not seen very many. Am looking for suggestions on a replacement pickguard other than the stock vintage white to compliment the black bindings. Rodger is kind enough to offer many options at his store.
     
  18. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    I don't care where Pensa gets their components or wood. The basses are beautiful, sound great, and play great. $4,000 is way too much money for me, but if one can afford it, and wants it, have at it!:)
     
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  19. Metropolis_488

    Metropolis_488 Supporting Member

    Jun 12, 2006
    Connecticut
    Oh I hear ya. I don't want to get into one of those Sadowsky flame type of deals here (seriously). But for ME, IMO, $4k for about $600 worth of parts plus a great set up ( a plek-job is $250) is a hard pill to swallow.

    But I agree - if one is able and willing, why not!
     
  20. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    You're cool. I don't want to see a flame war either, but you are just as entitled to your opinion as any boutique Jazz lover is too.:cool:

    I will say that any great bass is more than the sum of its parts, otherwise I could make a Pensa or Sadowsky too.:atoz: