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Chinese Proverb (2nd time around)

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by jazzbo, Apr 14, 2002.

  1. jazzbo


    Aug 25, 2000
    San Francisco, CA
    A young man decides to study the martial arts. He hears of a great master who is said to be the best teacher. He makes the long journey to speak with him.

    Young man: "Master, I have come a great distance to be able to train with you. I wish to become a master of the martial arts myself. I will dedicate myself totally and completely. How long must I train to become a master?"

    Master: "Ten years."

    Young man: (Slightly dejected). "I will train twice as hard as all of your other students master. I will dedicate every waking moment to becoming great. How long then will it take?"

    Master: "Well then, it will take 20 years."

    Young man: (Confused, frustrated). "20 years? I will train even harder. How long master?"

    Master: "40 years."

    Young man: "Why is it master, that every time I say I will train even harder, you say it will take twice as long as before?"

    Master: "Because, when you have only one eye on your training and one eye on your goal, you have only half of your focus on your training."


    It is often so easy to become distracted from our practice with promises of record deals, performances, competitions and comparisons. I believe my greatest acheivements in bass playing have been made when my mind was free of these worries, and I could dedicate my focus to the moment, with no thought of some specific acheivement, but just to play to play and to learn.

    I thought this might be relevant.
  2. ashton


    Jan 4, 2001

    ( weird kung-fu voice on )

    yes grandfather.

    ( weird kung-fu voice off )

  3. Oysterman


    Mar 30, 2000
    You got me thinking.
  4. ColonelZulu

    ColonelZulu Not Impressed By Those Who Flaunt “Authority” Supporting Member

    Apr 14, 2001
    Rush, Hold Your Fire 1987, Mercury/Polygram

    But dreams don't need to have motion
    To keep their spark alive
    Obsession has to have action
    Pride turns on the drive

    ...A spirit with a vision is a dream with a mission...
  5. Hey, I can do that too, Zulu!!! :D ;)

    Rush, Hold Your Fire 1987, Mercury/Polygram

    ...From the point of igniton
    To the final drive
    The point of the journey
    Is not to arrive
    Anything can happen...

    ...From the point of entry -
    Untill the the candle is burned
    The point of departure -
    Is not to return
    Anything can happen...

    Excellent post as always jazzbo...
  6. Brendan


    Jun 18, 2000
    Austin, TX
    Y'know, I think that's one of the truest proverbs I've ever seen...
  7. Aaron


    Jun 2, 2001
    Seattle, WA
    from now on i won't set goals! just kidding...
  8. jazzbo


    Aug 25, 2000
    San Francisco, CA

    As the great Calvin (of Calvin & Hobbes fame) said, "The trick is to lower your expectations to the point that they're already met!" :D :D
  9. Jason Carota

    Jason Carota Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2002
    Lowell, MA
    Excellent post, Jazzbo. This one is going straight to the printer and then hung on the wall.
  10. ok i have one... here goes:

    Me and my good friend Eric WIlliams were playing SHadow Warrior back in tha' day ( heeh ) and i was mauled by a giant gremlin. he makes fun of me saying that " i was killed by a gremlin" and i returned by " but it was a giant gremlin". his reply" It doesn't matter if it was a giant gremlin, the point is, you were killed by a gremlin."

    It doesnt matter how large the goal will end up being, it is still the same small goal.
  11. supergreg


    Jan 20, 2002
    Very interesting.
  12. Never underestimate the East. They are way ahead of us in many things, philosophy is one of them, IMHO. Ah, I must brush up on my reading. Thanks for reminding me, Jazzbo. ;)

    Mike J.
  13. What is the sound of one hand slapping?
  14. DanGouge


    May 25, 2000
    The Simpsons resolved that one.
  15. Freakapotamus9


    Jun 20, 2001
    in a great episode, one might add.

    great post jazzbo!
  16. cassanova


    Sep 4, 2000
    thats deep Jazzbo.
  17. jazzbo


    Aug 25, 2000
    San Francisco, CA
  18. Benjamin Strange

    Benjamin Strange Commercial User

    Dec 25, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    Owner / Tech: Strange Guitarworks
    Kung Fu master: "Snatch the pebble from my hand, grasshopper."

    Kung Fu student: *snatch!*

    Kung Fu master: *looks at empty hand* "Ok, best two out of three?"
  19. Prahainspring


    Oct 22, 2002
    New Jersey
    haha! :p :D

    Jazzbo, That is a very important outlook on how we operate in life and our music.
  20. Confucius say: "Man who digs up two year old thread has big shovel."

    Mike :D
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