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Choose my homework for me!

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by kserg, Mar 24, 2006.


I must watch this movie:

Poll closed Mar 25, 2006.
  1. Farinelli

    1 vote(s)
    5.6%
  2. Immortal Beloved

    2 vote(s)
    11.1%
  3. Shine

    3 vote(s)
    16.7%
  4. Impromptu

    2 vote(s)
    11.1%
  5. Touts Les Matins du Monde

    2 vote(s)
    11.1%
  6. Hillary and Jacque

    1 vote(s)
    5.6%
  7. Carrots.

    7 vote(s)
    38.9%
  1. kserg

    kserg

    Feb 20, 2004
    San Jose, CA
    Ok for Music class I have to watch one of these movies in poll. I can't pick one. I have 1 hour to choose, after that I have to watch it and write a paper on it before its time to get drunk.

    I already watched "The Red Violin" and "Amadeus" for first two assignments. Those were some good movies! Tell me which one you think is better one out of all these (more interesting I guess).

    Farinelli
    Immortal Beloved
    Shine
    Impromptu
    Touts Les Matins du Monde
    Hillary and Jacque
     
  2. Kibuddy

    Kibuddy

    Apr 30, 2005
    I can't say I've heard of any of them. Care to give a very brief synopsis of them?


    /not cultured
     
  3. kserg

    kserg

    Feb 20, 2004
    San Jose, CA

    If I was "cultured" I wouldn’t have to ask either. :)

    This is description from the list to choose from on class website.



    Farinelli--an interesting movie about the famous castrato, Farinelli.

    Amadeus --a truly great film, even if it plays a little loose with the facts (a version with the cuts restored has been recently released).Some issues (there are many others) you might want to address in your observation: 1)What is Mozart's status as a composer in this film? How is he treated by the Emperor Joseph, by the Emperor's advisors, by Salieri, by the archbishop of Salzburg? If you know of any composers after Mozart, was their status any different from his? 2) How does Mozart treat Salieri? From Mozart's behavior towards Salieri, what do you think Mozart's opinion is of him? What does Salieri think of Mozart?

    Immortal Beloved --a good but not great film about the life of Beethoven, interwoven with the quest for the identity of his "Immortal Beloved." Rather loose with the facts, but this is balanced by several insightful moments. Some questions you might want to consider: 1) How is Beethoven perceived by women in this movie? 2) In the movie, what is Beethoven's overall personality like? How does this compare with what is said about him in the lectures and in your textbook? 3) In the movie, what kind of reactions does the public have to his music? 4) Consider the scene where Beethoven attempts to play his piano concerto with the orchestra, but the performance keeps breaking down. Why is this? Why do the other performers refuse to go on with the performance? Why does the audience laugh at Beethoven? Do you think that something very much like this scene might conceivably have happened in Beethoven's real life?
    Shine --a true story, featuring a fine performance by Geoffrey Rush. Something to consider: What reactions do you have to the kinds of pressure put upon world-class concert pianists such as the ones presented in this movie?

    Impromptu --a charming and wholly fictional tale about Chopin, Liszt, George Sand (hard to find but the Los Altos Library has it). Some questions you might want to consider: 1) In the movie, there are scenes where wealthy, upper middle-class people are very supportive of artists such as Chopin, Liszt, George Sand, etc. How do these artists themselves regard their patrons? 2) What does this say about the status of artists in general during this time period of the 19th century? 3) What is Chopin's overall personality like in the movie? How does this compare with what is said about him in your textbook? 4) In the scene where George Sand, Chopin, Liszt, and the other artists are having dinner with the Duchess, the artists make some comments on how they see themselves and on their values. Briefly summarize these. 5) In the same scene, Chopin makes a brief speech praising his hosts, who belong to the aristocracy. How do the other artists react to this?
    6) There is a scene where the artists put on a play for their hosts, seemingly based on the biblical story of Noah and the Flood. What was the real purpose of doing this play? How does Chopin react to it? What does this tell you about the values of 19th century artists?

    The Red Violin --this fine film traces the history of a great instrument through its several owners.

    Touts Les Matins du Monde --a very fine and beautifully acted film from France with Gerard Depardieu, about the Baroque composer Marais Marin. Has many insights about the art of music. However, this kind of film is the direct opposite of American action flicks: it is slow moving and there are a number of symbolic representations which are not always easy to understand. If you're used to movies like "Die Hard", this one is not for you--but if you're looking for a movie that will make you think about music, "Touts les Matins du Monde" is very much worth your while.

    Hillary and Jacque --a true story about the gifted cellist Jacqueline Du Pre (by no means a "feel good" story, but a good film nonetheless). You might want to compare the attitude and approach of the two sisters towards music. Are they the same? In what ways are they different?


    OPERA ON VIDEO --With the understanding that video is not a substitute for seeing opera in person, here are three excellent opera videos:

    La Boheme —get the 1989 Sydney Opera production directed by Baz Luhrmann (who directed Moulin Rouge)--young/contemporary/hip; an excellent "first opera."

    Turandot —rent the Metropolitan Opera’s production, directed by Franco Zeffirelli; terrific, the cost of this production exceeds the GNP of many small countries.

    Don Giovanni —try the Peter Sellars version; like all of his productions, this one is off-beat, it is set in contemporary Harlem; Don Giovanni and Leporello are played by African Americans, both of whom are superb.



    BTW The Red Violin and Amadeus were real good movies. I liked it. I was going to go for Don Giovanni but its sounds too weird and no one here has it.
     
  4. Kibuddy

    Kibuddy

    Apr 30, 2005
    I think I may have to go with Hillary and Jacque, mostly because it's about a cellist, and that's an instrument I've always wished I could play.
     
  5. kserg

    kserg

    Feb 20, 2004
    San Jose, CA
    Hmmm 1 for each is not helping :)

    Good point though, cello is awesome; I just visited my cousin he is learning it, I tried it, very fun instrument.
     
  6. DougP

    DougP

    Sep 4, 2001
    i personally thought Immortal Beloved was a better movie and closer to the facts than Amadeus was.
     
  7. kserg

    kserg

    Feb 20, 2004
    San Jose, CA
    Oh I didn’t look at “Amadeus” as "fact" movie, more of "feel". I know that a lot of things in Amadeus were misrepresented but as a movie (art wise) I thought it was pretty good especially part of Don Giovanni. Hmmm I am now leaning towards Immortal Beloved. But I think Immortal Beloved is also not that great fact wise.
     
  8. DougP

    DougP

    Sep 4, 2001
    Amadeus was more "fun" to me than I.B.

    i am just a big fan of Gary Oldman and thought he portrayed a pretty good Beethoven and thats where i think they got it right. even if they did mess up some of the finer details.

    but then, thats show business. :)
     
  9. DigMe

    DigMe

    Aug 10, 2002
    Waco, TX
    Immortal Beloved is good. Man...if I could find that Peter Sellers version of Don Giovanni that's the one I'd be hittin'! Shine is really pretty entertaining but not earth-shattering. Rush gave a great performance.

    bc
     
  10. kserg

    kserg

    Feb 20, 2004
    San Jose, CA

    That’s the one I wanted from the start but couldn’t find it anywhere here.


    Thanks guys.
     
  11. None of the above. Slack off and post to talkbass. Homework is overrated.

    Rock on
    Eric
     
  12. kserg

    kserg

    Feb 20, 2004
    San Jose, CA

    Stop this spam... Just vote for carrots or sing. I do not except any other options from you Mr. Eric.
     
  13. kserg

    kserg

    Feb 20, 2004
    San Jose, CA
    Hmmm, kind of disappointed, not bad but.

    I loved the music though.
     
  14. DigMe

    DigMe

    Aug 10, 2002
    Waco, TX
    Of what? What movie did you watch you crazy commie?!

    bc
     
  15. kserg

    kserg

    Feb 20, 2004
    San Jose, CA

    haha, I was so sure I said it, at least the voice in my head did and that counts for something!

    I watched "Immortal Beloved". Overall i thought it was ok but few scenes made it worth watching. Especially when they make you feel like deaf by cutting out music, I found that to be pretty powerful.

    Also since Don Giovanni was on back of my head. “9th Symphony” and the “Don Giovanni” have their patterns, especially how this movie shows it and how the movie “Amadeus” showed it. You know whole thing about fathers and how they haunt them even from grave/far away/etc. Kind of interesting.

    Thanks guys for making me decide.

    BTW Digme, I bought Peter Sellers version of Don Giovanni so I’ll end up watching it anyway. Can’t believe no one around me had it.

    Thanks
    Cheers
     
  16. Ericman197

    Ericman197

    Feb 23, 2004
    Iowa
    I vote for On Golden Blonde. Wait, was that on the list?
     
  17. kserg

    kserg

    Feb 20, 2004
    San Jose, CA
    Next paper i will do on "debbie does dallas" I will talk about music in pornos... Chacapaw-paw
     
  18. DigMe

    DigMe

    Aug 10, 2002
    Waco, TX
    Only kserg can quote the lyrics to pr0n music.

    bc
     
  19. FINE!!

    ::really bad version of Robin Williams parodying Julie Andrews::

    Tha HILLLLLLLLLS are alive, with the sound of MUUUUUUUUUUSIIIIIIIIIC!!

    Rock on
    Eric
     

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