http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/4/27/1885410/Strings-Chromes76P.mp3 http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/4/27/1885410/Strings-Fenders76P.mp3 The strings: Fender flats from 1998 well-used gauges 45-105 D'addario Chromes 8 months old with 20-25 gigs on them gauges 40-95 I've got a set of really old Fender flats, and I haven't had them on a bass in a couple years, and I got really curious to see how Chromes stacked up. So after my gig, I took my Precision and put the Fenders on it and made a quick recording. After that I put the Chromes back on and made another quick recording. I used my 76 Precision with a Fender 62 CS P and a DiMarzio Ultrajazz, only used the P pickup. Ran that into a Countryman Type 85 (dang it, get here already, REDDI!!!) and an ART Tube MP mic pre into an M-Audio 2496 soundcard. About the only difference was higher action with the Fenders, though I tried to keep my style and hand placement the same. I apologize for any out-of-tuneness or slightly sloppy playing, but what do you want for 3 in the morning??? My thoughts: I swapped out each string one by one and compared it against each other with the bass unplugged. Almost made it a guessing game because they sounded so close. But once on tape, you can tell which ones have more age on them. Or maybe you could tell which strings had higher action and/or were thinner. But I am flabbergasted at how close the Chromes sound to the old Fenders. I'd bet money that if we came back to these Chromes after a few years that they'd sound pretty much identical. I didn't record them, but I have a set of old style Fender flats I bought 3 or 4 years ago with not as much wear and tear, and I tried the E string against the other 3 old Fenders, and the newer E sounded brighter and more like the Chromes. Should have thought to try that E string against the Chromes, but really, at that point I felt like my experiment was over and just wanted the Chromes back on. Don't like the fat strings. So it's a bold statement but I'm going to say it, even though on this apples-to-oranges comparison they don't quite sound the same...Chromes and old style Fender Flats sound the same. And though I haven't tried a newer set of Fender flats since they changed to the colored ball ends, a lot of people say they sound like Chromes, so it makes me wonder if they really changed anything at all except the ball ends. I certainly think I was listening with my eyes when I thought Chromes weren't quite the same as the old Fenders, I'll admit it. But even if you want to nitpick, you still have to admit that's awfully close, and without having tried them, I'd bet you'd come to the same conclusion about newer Fenders.
I've always felt the old Fenders and the Chromes shared a certain high mids character that made them stand out in a mix in a way some other flats don't. But listening to these recordings is pretty ear-opening, they really do sound very similar. Since I've never played the new Fenders, I can't say anything from experience, but from these clips it sounds like they have been formulated to sound quite similar to the old Fenders. It gives each note a kind of firmness that I don't hear with Labellas, bot great tones but fairly different. Because of the greater high-mids content I find the Chromes sound different on different basses whereas the labellas (and Sadowskys) impart more of their own tone on each instrument, and tend to sound good on all of them where Chromes sometimes don't to my ears on certain instruments.
I can only hear a slight difference in the upper mid frequencies, I agree that they would sound nearly identical if they were the same age. I love my old Fender Flats, I was lucky to find a set of them.
So just listened again after getting some sleep, and now I'm a little sorry that I didn't slap the newer set of Fender strings on it and compare that as well. Not sorry enough to restring my bass again, though. Anyway, you guys are right...listening with rested ears, the Chromes are a little upper middier and a little ringier. That's still about it to my ears. Anyway, glad this thread got so much great reaction...holy cow, you'd think this was a holiday or something!
The new Fender flats are different to Chromes. They are Stainless steel. Just as bright but not as clanky and respond to treble rolloff perfectly to enable excellent versatility. They also seem to have more "air" and growl in the lower frequencies and a melodic bloom to the note higher up the fretboard. I find Chromes to be almost unusable until they break in and that seems to take forever with my finger chemistry. Not so the new Fender 9050's.
Not debating the sound of the new Fenders because I've never heard them yet, but Chromes and old Fender flats are also stainless steel. I should try a set of them and see for myself, though. Looks like they come in a gauge that would work for me.
Pretty much same sound, but i prefer the fenders. The chromes are a bit hars sounding in the upper mids imo.
Hi Jimmy I assumed the Chromes had some other metal in their construction as they are much more um...chrome coloured. My mistake. The Fenders are similar in feel and tension but IMO have different sounding mids and lows. I ripped a set of old Chromes off my bass to put the Fenders on. Much happier. I'd almost given up on flats for general use.
Well I'm going to stick with the Chromes because I have them already but those new Fenders do sound pretty cool from that description.