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classic amps vs modern hi fi

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Aenema, Jan 22, 2002.


  1. Aenema

    Aenema

    Apr 18, 2001
    Michigan
    does anyone notice when you listen to classic rock the bass has way more presence than todays rock? is that due to the amps they used? thick tube sound? or the eq setting?
     
  2. drewie

    drewie

    Jan 20, 2002
    Cardiff, Wales, UK
    It's probably due to a number of factors...

    I suspect that it's mainly down to the fact that older records were recorded and mastered using analogue equipment, while most modern recordings are generally done via digital. Most studios still use valve compressors or emulators to `improve' the sound.

    Then again...
     
  3. Aenema

    Aenema

    Apr 18, 2001
    Michigan
    they call that improvement? all tube amps are still top choice today!
     
  4. It's probably because not as many players did the scooped mids thing back then.
     
  5. VicDamone

    VicDamone

    Jun 25, 2000
    If your talking about listening to recorded music the fault lies in post production. This is how the producer or the band wants it to sound. What often happens is the mix is monitored via speakers with good frequency response and they dial out the lows. You throw the CD in your home box which probably has no were near the response of those monitors and bingo...mud.

    On the other hand many new and reissued jazz albums have the bass nice and up front. The bass on 'some' of these albums sound much better compaired to the original
     
  6. It has a lot to do with tubes, not just in the amps, but in the recording chain as well. That Fat sound on practically all the old recordings is the distortion of tubes, although back then they hated it, and did everything they could to get rid of it. That tiny bit that they couldn't get rid of gives nice warmth to the old recordings in my opinion.

    And like you say, the tube bass amps sounded better in the mix. Not much to listen to by themselves, just kind of thuddy, but in the mix, it all adds up to better than the sum of the parts. The Motown bass sound everybody attributes to the Ampeg Fliptop I think was just a P-Bass plugged directly into the mixing board - but it was probably a tube mixing board.

    The chinkety-chink sound everybody goes for nowadays just sucks. Tweeters on a bass amp? Ridiculous. We are not guitarists, people. Stay back out of the solo spotlight and keep the rhythm section fat and happy. :D

    Chris