Classical Greek

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by IamGroot, Jun 9, 2020.

  1. IamGroot

    IamGroot Inactive

    Jan 18, 2018
    I am learning Classical Greek during my Covid downtime. Any recommendations as how to proceed. Several things on youtube. The Greek 101 course on Great Courses was good, but I dont kn pi w their pricing.

    I had 6 years of latin. I speak Russian, so the pronunciation is somewhat familiar

    I own "Greek, an intensive course" by Hansen and Quinn. Quinn was actually the greek instructor at my high school, but I left NYC before I had to take the course.
    ajkula66 likes this.
  2. kesslari

    kesslari Groovin' with the Fusion Cats Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 21, 2007
    Santa Cruz Mtns, California
    Lark in the Morning Instructional Videos; Audix Microphones
    Can't help you, but kudos!
    HaphAsSard, IamGroot and Winslow like this.
  3. Oddly


    Jan 17, 2014
    Dublin, Ireland.
    Move to Greece. :D
  4. IamGroot

    IamGroot Inactive

    Jan 18, 2018
    It's probably not spoken in Greece any more so than in Ireland. Classical Greek and Modern Greek are very different.
    Oddly and ajkula66 like this.
  5. Boogiepop

    Boogiepop 死神

    Dec 22, 2019
    Don't know if it's still available, but when I dabbled in classic Greek years ago, it was with the aid of "An Introduction to Greek", by Crosby and Schaeffer (considered the standard textbook at the time). Vocabulary and paradigms, guides to inflections and tonic accent, short tales, readings from Xenophon, Heroditus, and others.

    IamGroot likes this.
  6. buldog5151bass

    buldog5151bass Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.

    Oct 22, 2003
    I would check with local colleges, and even high schools. Since this is a dead language, the hard part will be finding people with whom to converse. You might be able to audit courses. Also check any local Greek-American social groups, where there might be someone who studies it.
    IamGroot and TOOL460002 like this.

    MAJOR METAL The Beagle Father Supporting Member

    You should still be able to purchase a copy of the Septuagint written in the classical style.
    IamGroot likes this.
  8. Rocker949


    Apr 20, 2005
    The Great Courses offer a classical Greek course. I don't have it, but I have their German and French ones. Usually, their courses are good. Of course it all depends on the particular professor. Also, you need to buy the courses when they're on sale, since the regular prices tend to be really high.
    bholder and IamGroot like this.
  9. IamGroot

    IamGroot Inactive

    Jan 18, 2018
    Disclaimer. I am only casually familiar with topic below and the subject matter is complex and has many schools of thought.

    For pre 400 BC Classical Greek, the pronunciations and grammar are well established for the main Attic dialect and there are is a large amount of spoken material online. Rice University and UT have been helpful in past with German language issues. Will reach out to them and maybe the Athenaze folks.

    After 400 BC, Greek spread withered Alexandrian conquests and later Roman rule. With the geographical spread and time, Ancient Greek morphed into Koine " common" Greek for which there is no consensus today on standard pronunciation and spelling. In short, the Greeks today pronounce Koine along the line of Modern Greek, US seminaries use the Erasmus guide written in the middle ages and the British and Germans do their own thing. Speaking Erasmian Greek in Greece is not well received.

    There are a lot of Erasmian Koine readings online for the New Testament. Be aware that Erasmus did the Greek to Latin translation of the NT known as the Received Text that were used for the KJV and Luther translations. Hence the religious scholarship.

    The Septuagint Old Testament was translated for the benefit of non Hebrew speaking Jews spread out beyond Israel. It is in Koine. It actually predates the Masoretic Hebrew text by 1200 years. The Masoretic text is considered by many as the definitive OT source translation and was used in both the KJV and Luther translstions.
    MAJOR METAL likes this.
  10. IamGroot

    IamGroot Inactive

    Jan 18, 2018
    The Greek 101 first free lesson was excellent, but the company did not appear very transparent as far as lesson and book costs, so I haven't hit on it yet.

    MAJOR METAL The Beagle Father Supporting Member

    For many philosophy students at the graduate level, being able to read and understand an original text of a philosopher in a foreign language is often a competency that must be met before beginning a thesis or dissertation. There were far more people signing up to take German and French than classical Greek :D Have you considered checking out your local Universities and Colleges to see if they have any classes that would help?
  12. Rocker949


    Apr 20, 2005
    I just looked it up. For the DVD you'd still have to pay tax and shipping. But the price is $99.95 for DVD right now. For instant video (which has no shipping) the price is $69.95. The Greek course is on sale at the moment. I don't know for how long. Like I had mentioned before, you probably wouldn't want to bother with this unless it's on sale. The French and German courses I mentioned that I bought are now over several hundred dollars each. I paid less than $100 each when I bought them. As for talking to this company by phone, who you talk to may make a difference. Some of their sales representatives are better than others. Most are good, though. For myself I usually buy DVDs. But for a friend who I've bought courses for (who lives in a foreign country) I get instant video which is simpler to do (and cheaper.)
    IamGroot likes this.
  13. Rocker949


    Apr 20, 2005
    One thing I didn't mention is that you have the option of getting a complete transcript of the course if you want one. The price can vary. Typically they're $25, but the last two times I got the transcripts at half price. As for myself, I'm not sure if I'll be ordering from the Great Courses much more because I think I've got about everything I need. But I may continue to order for friends.
    IamGroot likes this.
  14. HaphAsSard


    Dec 1, 2013
    I see what you did there... :D
    kesslari likes this.