Hey guys, Im looking for a little advice on what I should do to improve my tone (aside from technique, which Im working on diligently). The tone I'd like to work towards is something along the lines of the bass players from Cake, Queen, etc. Nice and thick without getting muddy or overbearing. Im tight on cash, so investing in a big Ampeg fridge or awesome amp is out of the question. But I think I might be able to scrounge around and find some cheap ways to improve my set up. Here is what I have and what I am thinking about trying. Let me know if Im thinking in the right direction or if I am completely missing something. Fender Pbass with flatwounds (DiAddario Chromes I think) Behringer bx4500h (this is where I think my biggest obstacle lies. It was free and its all Ive got at the moment.) Kustom Groove Bass 410h (again, not ideal, but I got it for 100 bucks and its decent enough. I think with the right stuff going into it, I can make it work. I hope I can anyway...) Thats basically what ive got right now. I can get an OK tone (not perfect by any means) at "playing by myself in the garage" levels. My problem with this set up is that I cant seem to get a good clean sound in a band setting, even though its a 3 piece. I can get loud, but its sounding muddy and/or a little distorted which I dont care for. When i turn down the lows, boost mids, it still sounds bad. I only turn the output level on the amp up about a quarter of the way and the gain is set about as low as I can get it. I don't need to be super loud at all. Ive tweaked everything else I can think of on the amp and on the guitar, but I just hate the sound Im getting when I play in a band setting no matter what I try. What Im thinking is that I need more wattage for that cab. The Behringer is supposed to be 450 watts at 4 ohms. The cab is 8 ohms and rated for 500 watts continuous, 1000 peak or something like that. Since Im running the amp into a single 8 ohm cab, Im guessing im really only getting 225 watts or so. I barely turn beyond a quarter of the way up and it gets plenty loud, but the louder its gets, the worse it seems to sound. Muddy, undefined noise and I hate it. I was thinking about looking around for an inexpensive PA power amp that I can squeeze 500 watts or so into an 8 ohm load and maybe getting some kind of pre amp like the V amp pro or a sansamp DI pedal or something like that. My theory is that maybe that behringer bass amp is having to work too and since its kinda a crappy amp anyway, it just doesnt sound good when its being pushed. Maybe a power amp and a seperate pre amp wouldnt have to work as hard and Id have better control over the tone. Am I on the right track? Or should I just live with it for now and start saving with the intention of scrapping the whole rig and spending some money on a better quality set up? Is there something else I could do that would be a cheap way to make this set up sound better? I don't know very much about amps/cabs etc. Ive always been too broke to buy quality stuff and have to make what i can get work. Any advice is appreciated.