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Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by needmoney, May 10, 2007.
no offense taken, just not the case with this "cat".
The HG410 arrived and it lives up to its reputation. Pretty amazing form factor, weight, build quality and most important...the Bergantino accuracy, clarity and tone! I've only played it at "in the house" volume (25% on the B|amp master volume) but my concerns about low end projection and volume compared to my REF112 stack were quickly put to rest.
Looking forward to breaking it in a bit and opening up the volume to see what she's really capable of! Thanks Husky for all the info and recommendation! You too KevK!
My pleasure! Let me know if you have any additional questions. I’ve been happily gigging the HG410 since its debut and it continues to amaze me, each and every show.
Recently picked up a NV115 and loved it . Then picked up a HDN 112 and was really surprised by the bottom on that little thing , so now I'm thinking of trading the NV115 for a HDN210 so the rig will be a little smaller . This should get me off the rig merry go round for a while . Any suggestions or advice ? I'm running it with a 900 Streamliner . Edit to insert pic
I'm an old Pbass guy but this was what I was running for the initial tests . That's an old Stingray off in the background behind the MB150 ...
Nothing better than the NV115 for vintage P bass (except maybe the venerable B-15). But a slightly more modern tone and easier schlep with 112s for sure. In my experience, YMMV.
The Dano somehow became my #1 . I don't quite know how that happened but I'm ok with it . Still has the factory strings (about twenty years old now) and has a lovely woody deep thump . I also play upright . I'm an old Pbass guy , but I've been neglecting them ...
Playing at my church Convention this weekend, and the church hired a production company to supply all equipment. All I had to bring is my bass and head. The bass cab provided is an Ampeg SVT410HLF. I brought a Fodera and my B|amp...All I can say is that I miss my HDN410.
In the words of the immortal Arnold Schwarzenegger.....DO EET! C'mon, DOO EEET
I DOO EEET with a CN112 and HDN210 and it sounds great! The HDN210 is and absolutely Amazing cab and I may buy a second one so I can have a modular 2/410.
I did the same, had a NV115 that I loved but needed something smaller to fit in my Miata so I got a CN112 that I used a ton of times, found I was not using the NV and felt seriously guilty about it. Then I scored CN210 and sold the NV115. Love the 210, mostly use it to gig and leave the 112 at my drummer's. Have only used the two together but they are a fantastic stack.
But I still miss the NV115!
The NV115 is gorgeous , but I would prefer a slightly smaller modular rig , so the 210 looks like the way to go .
The thing about Berg cabs is that if you know what you want like in this case you can keep an eye out for a used one and buy it pretty safely. The cabs are great and the players that use them take good care of them. And there is a fair amount of flipping because Jim keeps coming out with new ones.
I live in Nova Scotia , so used is not really an option around here . I did get get the NV115 used , but I'll spring for a new 210 . I do have a little gear slush fund tucked away though so it's not a big issue . I expect that this will remain as my speaker selection for a while , though . I have some regular gigs so they will quickly pay for themselves .
For those of you with a B|Amp, can you describe the effect of using the cab profiles vs not using them?
The speaker profile, in the case of my B | Amp and Ref 112's, seems to even out the bottom octave. I can play chromatically down from C on the A string and all the notes have this fantastic eveness of response that I haven't heard before in another set up. It's a great feature.
As previous post. Plus...imo... it solidifies it... (technical I know) gives a more even SBS solid note, especially down low.
It went from being good to great
I've used the HG310 setting on an Epifani UL310 cabinet. I know they are totally different cabs, but it does seem to open the sound of that cabinet.
And when I connect my two Schroeder cabs, I'm using the HDN212 setting since the cabs are a single 12" ported and a dual 12" cab. It does seem to tighten the sound up on those too.
I know this is maybe a little unconventional (after all they aren't Berg cabs), but it seems to work better for me.
Anyone tried an Ampeg PF-20T into a HG410? Not expecting to hit huge gig volumes, but the HG410 is quite efficient to my ears, sealed, and so I'm thinking they could work well together.
Has anyone here coupled a HG-410 and HDN-112? Would that be a 422?
I’m thinking of doing it on my next ‘rock’ gig. I used to use a HG-310/HDN-112, and that was an awesome pairing.
Amp is the Forte HP
I just hate to say this.
My 4 string string basses have an E string that's fundamental frequency is 41 Hz. (Mind you a Low B string is 31 Hz on a 5 string)
I'm just trying to find cabinets that are light weight, high sensitivity, high power capability, and take up a small foot print on the stage. That can have specifications that are rated for those frequencies. And that is not an easy thing to accomplish. But some speaker manufactures have drivers speced that can do it.
HG310 freq response 43 - 15K
HG410 freq response 42 - 15K
HG412 freq response 42 - 15k (but weighs 64 lbs)
HDN212 freq response 40 - 12k
Just saying, seems to be some way to get down to the E string fundamental and make it small, powerful, and light weight. Some folks are making Neos that can go to 40hz. And even Epifani is using dual voice coil drivers in their models that can get a lot of excursion with a DIST cab or even the Tour 3-10 that is rated at 40hz. I replaced my EPI 310 UL speakers with the new dual voice coil Eminence ones and wired the voice coils in series. That made each spkr 16 ohms and allowed that cab to be parallel wired for 5.6 ohms. But I think Jim can do it better.
Even if low end drivers were paired with full range drivers. Seems if the sensitivity was similar (within one or two decibels) the frequency range would be covered. Just a wild a$$ idea. Maybe no one is doing.
I have ported Schroeder cabs operating at 35 hz using B&C drivers.