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Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by needmoney, May 10, 2007.
At first, I was also a bit mystified by the grill screws. Picture's worth a thousand words:
Thank you for the response. I purchased it from the classifieds here on TalkBass. I will take it out carefully and check it out.
Thank You, very helpful as I don't want to damage them.
A Bergantino setup just moved to the top of my wishlist. Up to one week ago, I couldn't decide whether I should go for another bass or amp next.
I recently had a practice with a new group, where a bass amp or cabinet was not provided already. I brought my Ampeg setup with SVT-1510HE that I've owned since 1995 and served me extremely well over the years. I'm much older now and the SVT-1510HE is 87 Lbs. Even my head felt heavy to carry.
The weight of my old gear helped to make this decision. Most likely, I will seek a used Forte (only 6 Lbs) which appears often in the Classifieds. The cabinets that will interest me are the HDN410 (54 Lbs) & HG410 (47 Lbs). I rarely see those in the classifieds, so I may need to buy that one new. This purchase won't be until sometime in 2020, so who knows? Possibly Jim will unveil his next marvelous creation at January's NAMM show and some players might start selling their ForteHP units. It all depends what is available when I'm ready.
Plus, the auxiliary-in and headphone jack would be perfect to practice at home without bothering anyone.
Herself has begun referring to my two new HDN cabinets as "Lamborghinis" instead of Bergantinos .
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Right after NAMM always fills the classifieds with gear from owners that want something new that just came out (guilty as charged on more than one occasion).
As an HG410 owner, you won't be disappointed regardless. It is such a fantastic cab.
I tried a Forte and HG410 a few weeks ago and was impressed.
Interested to here from those running a HG410 with a Head other than the B|Amp/Forte. I have a Quilter BB800 also, and loved it with my NV115 stack equally to my B|Amp but withe HG410 it just sounds like they are fighting each other a bit. Hard to describe. Just sounds like that combo is lacking. Pains me to say that as the Quilter has been a monster with any Cab I've used it with.
Maybe you need the new Bass Block 802?
No, I don't think that's the answer!
Just interested in how people see other amps interacting with this cab compared to the B Amp.
Hey there, have you tried trimming some bass frequencies on the BB? Those two will have huge low end natively and may need some attenuation to not cloud out some mids and highs.
That's the strange thing, I actually think the lows are lacking, which is odd for exactly how you describe the cab and BB. Both have plenty on that area. I might need to experiment some more.
When I had the HG410, it worked beautifully with my Monique tube preamp (>B|Amp effects return though)...usually dime’d (or close to) M’s mid control and cut back on the lows slightly...
Can't haul a 410 these days, getting up there in age and back issues has stopped that. So really looking to lighten the load but still have frequency response and high sensitivity rating in a cab (101 or better). Currently using a couple of 8 ohm cabs, a dual 12" and a single 12" and they are loud and proud.
Wish I could get a Neo dual 12 in cab from Berg that would be operating at 8 ohms. Personally I like paring 8 ohm cabs together, and I never mismatch cab impedance loads. (Like using a 4 ohm cab with and 8 ohm cab) That is just not good business, period.
Currently my cabs weigh 38 lbs for a dual 12", and 28 lbs for a single 12". And that is about all my back can take these days.
Every head and cabinet isn’t always a good match.
If your 4 ohm cab is our HDN212, for example, and the 8 ohm cab is our HDN112, it would be a perfect match. You can look at the HDN212 as two 8 ohm HDN112 cabs in one box. When hooked in parallel, each woofer in the system (312) will receive the exact same amount of power. And since you can set up the B|AMP to run at 2.67 ohms, you're good to go.
You can't make a blanket statement about mixing 8ohm and 4 ohm cabs until you examine the make up of each cab.
Hope this helps.
OK never mind.
I hope my post was taken as informative and not dismissive. Just wanted to make sure you understand that not all 4 and 8 ohm cabs are created "equal", and possibly make a decision that may not be optimum for what you're trying to achieve.
I use a Berg HD212 4 ohm and HD112 8 ohm. I use them with a Mesa WD-800 which also has 2.67 ohms and they are Killer