cold fusion??

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by slick519, Sep 18, 2002.

  1. slick519


    Aug 11, 2001
    Salem, Or
    What is with it?? The way they describe it,it sounds like there is only a chemical reaction going on, not fusion. but there are people who swear by it, whats going on?

    does anybody want to explain this to me in more detail?

  2. rllefebv


    Oct 17, 2000
    Newberg, Oregon
    A tag-based web programming language/server suite that allows for quick development of web-based applications :D

  3. u can have make ,have cold fusion from any thing thats when mix cause a backing soda and vinger.the problem is turning this in to power.
  4. slick519


    Aug 11, 2001
    Salem, Or
    but isnt that a chemical reaction, only ivolving the electrons, and protons, no nucleus? i thought that getting fusion actually involved fusion!

  5. jondog


    Mar 14, 2002
    NYC metro area
    Cold Fusion is the power source for Rigellan FTL cruise ships, the big ones with the cool lounges that won't give my band a gig because we're non-union. I was talking w/ Frtim and it said that many bassists on Rigel used to use cold fusion to power their amps (over 4 watts/gallon!), but now everyone has gone back to tubes. None of them tune to A 440 because, at light speed, the electrons in medium gauge strings generate a blue glow that is very cold. ;)
  6. PollyBass

    PollyBass ******

    Jun 25, 2001
    Shreveport, LA
    You sarcastic BASTARD you! :p
  7. iplaybass

    iplaybass Guest

    Feb 13, 2000
    Germantown, TN
    Cold Fusion is an idea. It was hoped that a means to sustain fusion at a temperature cooler than the 1 million C+ could be found. Well, so far no luck. The only fusion being done is in Tokamak reactors where fusion is contained in powerful magnetic fields.
  8. Dave Castelo

    Dave Castelo

    Apr 19, 2000
    lol i thought you were talking about some new beverage lol
  9. PollyBass

    PollyBass ******

    Jun 25, 2001
    Shreveport, LA
    Try new "Cold Fusion" with the slight hint of lime and motor oil! "Cold Fusion" Go Fusion!
  10. old_skool


    Aug 17, 2000
    Milwaukee, WI
    The best Winamp skina eva, chyeah!
  11. Dave Castelo

    Dave Castelo

    Apr 19, 2000
    you better have the link to back that statement up Mister!

  12. Damn straight. It's like the MTD 535 of Winamp skins--it just doesn't get any more elegant.
  13. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    Pons and Fleischman.
  14. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    This is about right - but maybe it's better if we don't discover the way to achieve cold fusion. I remember going on a science open week at Sussex University and my interest was cosmology. So this topic was dicussed and there was some speculation that the amount of energy that would be released by fusion was huge - unimaginable! It could certainly mean that the ice caps would melt unless we controlled it very strictly - wiping us all out in a tidal wave.

    But some of the University professors speculated that so much energy could be released that it would wipe out the whole planet or solar system in a burst ! So, they have been detecting huge inexplicable bursts of energy from remote galaxies.

    Maybe that's why we haven't met any ETs - they discover a source of energy like fusion and wipe themslves out in a big bang! ;)
  15. Sort of like the first arom bomb. At the test bomb site in New Mexico (I think) the scientists actually didn't know if the explosion would ever stop or if it would just continue until it ran out of available materials.
  16. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    Well - except they are in fact opposites!!

    So, the "Atom Bomb" is nuclear "fission" - splitting the atom, where "fuson" is about combining...
  17. The good thing about fusion is using hydrogen - which is good, as 70% of the world or so, is covered in various depths of H20!!

    So usig lots of it in a controlled manner wqill result in a fall in the sea level!!! We'll also have an abundance of oxygen - to fill our oxygen tents at home with - 'cos the levels of pollution will soon make our atmosphere almost unbreathable.

    The results of the fusion process mostly Lithium and Helium will mean we have plenty of batteries for our mobile phones, and lots of helium for balloons and talking funny over our mobiles.

    Once we can control the process, it's a win-win situation!!!;) :D
  18. WB - you're so wrong. And you're speling hasn't improved nun eether.

    Found at: by typing "What is nuclear fusion" into AskJeeves.

    Nuclear Fusion Basics
    Section 1 - The Nuclear Fusion Reaction
    Nuclear Fusion is the energy-producing process which takes place continuously in the sun and stars. In the core of the sun at temperatures of 10-15 million degrees Celsius, Hydrogen is converted to Helium providing enough energy to sustain life on earth.

    For energy production on earth different fusion reactions are involved. The most suitable reaction occurs between the nuclei of the two heavy forms (isotopes) of Hydrogen - Deuterium (D) and Tritium (T); eventually reactions involving just Deuterium or Deuterium and Helium (3He) may be used.

    Most suitable fusion reaction.

    At the temperatures required for the D-T fusion reaction - over 100 Million deg. C - the fuel has changed its state from gas to PLASMA. In a plasma, the electrons have been separated from the atomic nuclei (usually called the "ions"). Understanding plasma required major developments in physics. Plasmas are now used widely in industry, especially for semi-conductor manufacture.

    Advantages of Fusion
    o A vast, new source of energy.
    o Fuels are plentiful.
    o Inherently safe since any malfunction results in a rapid shutdown.
    o No atmospheric pollution leading to acid rain or "greenhouse" effect.
    o Radioactivity of the reactor structure, caused by the neutrons, decays rapidly and can be minimised by careful selection of low-activation materials. Provision for geological time-span disposal is not needed.

    Deuterium is abundant as it can be extracted from all forms of water. If all the world's electricity were to be provided by fusion power stations, Deuterium supplies would last for millions of years.

    Tritium does not occur naturally and will be manufactured from Lithium within the machine.

    Lithium, the lightest metal, is plentiful in the earth's crust. If all the world's electricity were to be provided by fusion, known reserves would last for at least 1000 years.

    Once the reaction is established, even though it occurs between Deuterium and Tritium, the consumables are Deuterium and Lithium.

    For example, 10 grams of Deuterium which can be extracted from 500 litres of water and 15g of Tritium produced from 30g of Lithium would produce enough fuel for the lifetime electricity needs of an average person in an industrialised country.

    Cold fusion is trying to make this reaction happen using "heavy water" and simple electrolysis. There is a lot of scepticism about whether this is possible though.

    Hope that answers your question. Unless you are talking about the web programming language or the Winamp skin :D
  19. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    Well, this is all very "utopian" and overwhelmingly positive - kind of like the things that were said about Nuclear power stations in the 1960s!! :rolleyes:

    Nuclear power is good for you!! Yeah right - don't believe everything you read!

    Of course the key phrase here is : "At the temperatures required for the D-T fusion reaction - over 100 Million deg. C "

    How do you get things to this kind of temperature? What is required to achieve this - what effect does this have on the environment? Who knows?

    So, to get things to such a high temperature requires vast resources, large production facilities and can hardly be described as "safe", unless somebody has changed the definition of safe to : "causes instant incineration"!! ;)
  20. bleh [​IMG]

    gimme Perl !! [​IMG][​IMG]