Combining a bass amp/cab (MB Ninja 212) with in-ears and going wireless

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  1. Syl_Funky_bass

    Syl_Funky_bass

    Jun 4, 2016
    Belgium
    Hi Guys,

    I need some help/advice concerning my live rig.

    Here is my current rig:

    -Bass: Sire V7 vintage 2nd gen.
    -Cab & amp: Markbass 212 Ninja & Little Marks Ninja head.
    -Line 6 G30 wireless system.

    My question:

    I've recently bought a pair of in-ears and a wireless in-ear system (transmitter + receiver).

    I want to combine my usual amp rig with in-ears and keep going wireless.

    At the moment, how I see it would be:

    Having the Line 6 G30 receiver attached to my strap + the in-ear system receiver body pack attached to my belt. Thus having 2 receivers on me on stage.
    Is it the most efficient way to do it?
    How do pro musicians actually do it?

    Is there any kind of system that would both enable me to go wireless to my amp an at the same time enable me to use my in-ears wireless?


    Thanks a lot in advance for your help.
     
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  3. musicman7722

    musicman7722

    Feb 12, 2007
    Hampton NH
    There are many threads here and they all agree it is not being done.

    you need two different systems. That is the way it goes. I do it that way and it is fine.
     
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  4. Syl_Funky_bass

    Syl_Funky_bass

    Jun 4, 2016
    Belgium
    Could you please explain to me how you do it with both systems? Step by step. How is everything set up and where? It's completely new to me.

    Thanks.
     
  5. musicman7722

    musicman7722

    Feb 12, 2007
    Hampton NH
    The wireless bass bit is easy. Plug the cable coming out of the wireless body pack into your bass. Plug the receiver end into the input of your amp or pedal train which then goes to your amp. bingo you are wirless as far as your bass.

    To go IEM wired or wireless is a lot more tricky. The first thing you must determine is where is your monitor signal coming from. Basically it must come from the band mixer or some variation on that. There are tons of threads here. You can alos have a look at the web site shown in my sig below.
     
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  6. s0c9

    s0c9 Supporting Member

    Jan 9, 2014
    Ft.Worth/Dallas
    1964 Audio artist, Fractal Audio Beta Tester
    Tell us what mixer you are using live and we can get more detailed from there...
     
  7. newwavefrank

    newwavefrank Gold Supporting Member

    Jul 30, 2009
    Salt lake City, UT
    I actually use three belt packs...Bass wireless on my strap, In-ear receiver on my belt or in my back pocket, And wireless headset mic on my belt or in the other pocket. Sounds tedious but it's not that bad. For what it's worth run the in ear cable under your shirt or put it on after your bass. You don't want it between your strap and shirt or a wrong move could yank the buds out of your ears or worse.
     
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  8. s0c9

    s0c9 Supporting Member

    Jan 9, 2014
    Ft.Worth/Dallas
    1964 Audio artist, Fractal Audio Beta Tester
    I have 2 - don't have the headset mic..
    Like you.. bass wireless on strap.. IEM receiver snapped onto back pocket!
    IEM cable run down inside shirt to avoid snagging, and bass cable wrapped around strap and down inside rear straplok to jack!
     
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  9. 2 simple ways to connect your in-ears:

    1. Everything connects into the mixer either directly or by microphones (even if you will not put it into the FOH speakers). Then you setup your monitor mix and send it to one of the monitor outputs and connect that to your in-ear transmitter.

    2. If for some reason you can't connect your bass into the main mixer (not enough channels, or whatever), then you can plug whatever monitor mix you do have into the Right input on your in-ear transmitter, and using a split signal (from a DI box, or whatever) you can connect your bass into the Left input.
     
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  10. s0c9

    s0c9 Supporting Member

    Jan 9, 2014
    Ft.Worth/Dallas
    1964 Audio artist, Fractal Audio Beta Tester
    PS: The G30 bodypak is actually a transmitter - not a receiver!
    That is why you want to keep it on your strap and away from the IEM "receiver" - to minimize any possible interference/interaction!
     
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  11. musicman7722

    musicman7722

    Feb 12, 2007
    Hampton NH
    I too run my IEM cable down my back and inside my shirt, T or suit coat but I like my IEM body pack on my left side belt just above the pants pocket. Because of the way my Stienberger bass sits on the strap I have to put my wireless body pack in my right hip pocket.
     
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  12. s0c9

    s0c9 Supporting Member

    Jan 9, 2014
    Ft.Worth/Dallas
    1964 Audio artist, Fractal Audio Beta Tester
    the point for the OP is that 2 bodypaks are pretty common!
     
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  13. Keeping the bodypacks separate isn't a big deal with the Line 6 unit as it's 2.4 Ghz and the IEM is most likely UHF or VHF band, quite a distance between them in frequency. More of an issue if you have 2 UHF units. I had a V55 right on top of my IEM, both on my strap and the rack units right by each other with no problem.

    Certainly better if you separate, but not as big a deal as you might think. It was more of a concern when I switched to QLXD Shure wireless, then I made sure to separate the antennas in the rack (front=QLXD wireless, back of rack=IEM) and on my body. I keep wireless high on strap by near shoulder and IEM on strap by waist. If you can keep your body in between them to the greatest extent possible that's a good thing, better than just distance alone.

    Randy
     
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