Comparing Pirastro Perpetuals to Obligatos --- Which ONE is the Obli?

Discussion in 'Strings [DB]' started by rickwolff, Jul 16, 2019.


  1. G String

    22 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. D String

    15 vote(s)
    34.1%
  3. A String

    7 vote(s)
    15.9%
  1. rickwolff

    rickwolff Supporting Member

    I know there is already a thread for the new Perpetuals, but I wanted to do a comparison with the Obligatos and have a poll, so here it is.



    Depending on how this goes I may switch out another one a bit later.
     
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2019
  2. rickwolff

    rickwolff Supporting Member

    What?? You don't hear any difference?

    If that's the case say so.
     
  3. Sam Dingle

    Sam Dingle Supporting Member

    Aug 16, 2011
    Tallahassee
    Not a huge difference. I guessed the D string. I would stick to perpetuals for longevity (Assuming the steel string last longer than synthetic) and no roll.
     
  4. dhergert

    dhergert Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 17, 2018
    Blue Zone, California
    I still wonder how you keep the glare off your glasses...

    Great playing, as a yearling I'd just guess the G string because there seems to be a little (I mean a very little bit) more character to the tone. But whatever string it is, it's really hard to tell.

    Wonderful sounds though.

    Funny joke; it's unusual to hear one that isn't copied from banjos.
     
  5. MrSidecar

    MrSidecar Supporting Member

    Apr 9, 2008
    Copenhagen, Denmark
    Rick,
    I honestly can’t tell. Since there’s gotta be one that’s different I lean towards the A. But I’m only guessing- the difference between the three top strings really to me is not noticeable in any way, and certainly it’s not disturbing.

    Best
    Sidecar
     
  6. I believe (and voted) the G is the Obligato.
    -It has a different tone to my ears, what we call "organic" or "warm"
    -The "kick" is different and more "round"
    -Less upper mids

    I much liked the A string.
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2019
  7. MrSidecar

    MrSidecar Supporting Member

    Apr 9, 2008
    Copenhagen, Denmark
    Jeez
    I can’t even read the thread title right. I was assuming only one perpetual and the others obligato. Not that it makes much difference to my ears that way- but that makes me think it’s the G. Sounds “older” for lack of a better word, but only ever so slightly.
    Best
    Sidecar
     
  8. dhergert

    dhergert Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 17, 2018
    Blue Zone, California
    That's possibly a good point though... The 3 Perpetuals are pretty new, aren't they? What vintage is the Obligato? Is this potentially a vintage mix test that could never be repeated?
     
  9. unbrokenchain

    unbrokenchain Supporting Member

    Jun 8, 2011
    Black Mountain, NC
    I voted A string
     
  10. rickwolff

    rickwolff Supporting Member

    WOW, Very Interesting. Thank you all for participating. I'll let this run another day or so and then post the answer.
     
  11. paulunger

    paulunger Supporting Member

    Sep 1, 2002
    Fort Worth, Texas
    That’s funny. My first thought when I put the Perpetuals on was that they felt like Obligatos. But louder, more sustain and lower tension.
     
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  12. AGCurry

    AGCurry Supporting Member

    Jun 29, 2005
    St. Louis
    I voted D because it seemed slightly softer open.
     
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  13. Slim Pickins

    Slim Pickins Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2015
    New Hampshire
    I'd be very surprised if it isn't G. I thought it sounded softer and more mellow in the 1st 10 seconds.
     
  14. LM Bass

    LM Bass

    Jul 19, 2002
    Vancouver, BC
    To my ear, the D sounds a little duller arco, but then the G sounds duller when you play pizz. Hmm. . . I think I shall officially charge you with some sort of trickery, where immediately as you put the bow down, the G string changed to an Obligato and the D went back to a Perpetual. Yeah, that's it! :)
     
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  15. elmer

    elmer

    Oct 1, 2004
    Finland
    G
     
  16. rickwolff

    rickwolff Supporting Member

    Thanks to everyone who played.

    The correct answer is: THE D STRING

    What is this confirms for me is several things:

    -The Perpetuals sound very similar (as good as?) the Obligatos, which to me is a good thing (especially since the Perpetuals are only a couple days old and sounded just like this right out of the box).

    -The fact that more people guessed the G string tells me that it is a very warm, good sounding string right out of the box, no breaking in necessary. I really like the G string. I like the whole set but the G may be my favorite.

    I had thought that perhaps the Obligatos had a little more 'pop' on the front end, which may be a characteristic of strings with a synthetic core (like EPs?).

    If these strings longevity is as good as their sound they are going to be very popular I predict.
     
  17. Sam Dingle

    Sam Dingle Supporting Member

    Aug 16, 2011
    Tallahassee
    For me, as long as they last a year i'm all set.
     
  18. Silevesq

    Silevesq

    Oct 2, 2010
    Quebec
    I'm wondering how they are going to react with time. I can't remember the obligato's I had. But I remember that my EP felt almost like "round wound" string and dirt would get stock in the crack and make the string dull. Is this one more like a "flat wound"?
     
  19. LM Bass

    LM Bass

    Jul 19, 2002
    Vancouver, BC
    Nailed it!
     
  20. labravajazz

    labravajazz Supporting Member

    Jan 26, 2006
    Sydney Australia
    Me too
     
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