Compression - Rack Mount?

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by nickname, Nov 24, 2005.

  1. nickname


    Jan 22, 2005
    I was looking at getting a compression pedal, but then though.. WHY?! if its something i'm going to have on all the time, why not just get a rack?

    but now the question is which one? not just which one but do i even need one? i have the SVT4-Pro, which has compression on it. do i really need to invest in a compressor? will it make a difference?

    share your comments please! you guys rock!
  2. I go back & forth on compression. Right now I'm not using any, but I own a DOD comp pedal- some would say it's total junk cheap quality crap, but I guess I'm not that picky. It does the job for me, when I'm in that mood. It tames sloppy slap technique for me. I've also used an Alesis 3630; it's a cheap($100-$150 new)rackmount unit. More versatility, a noise gate & two channel/stereo capabilities. I mentioned it on a thread once, though & was politely :eyebrow: told it was junk & DBX makes much nicer stuff in the same price range. As for being 'neccesary', absolutely not, unless you're Billy Sheehan. :D
  3. 6stringerbeaner


    Nov 18, 2003
    I have the DBX 266XL and it works just fine for me. There is better out there but for the price range of similar brands the DBX sounds better. I'm sure others could recommend a higher end rankmount comp.
  4. AlembicPlayer

    AlembicPlayer Im not wearing shorts

    Aug 15, 2004
    Pacific Northwet, USA
    I like my Rane split band DC24

  5. nickname


    Jan 22, 2005
    so the real question is.. would i need one with my rig? is it worth it to spend the money on a pedal, or on a rack?
  6. CetiAlphaVI


    May 27, 2005
    If your amp already has compression AND you like the on-board compressor's operation, why would you need an additional compressor? Unless you are dissatisfied with the amp's compressor, I think your money would be better spent elsewhere.
  7. There you have it- in writing. :D Seriously- no, you do not 'need' compression. Many players can control their dynamics just fine w/o it. OTOH, some prefer the sound. Whatever you like, but to answer your question, you will NOT burst into flames w/o using a compressor. ;) On yet another hand, most rigs' onboard compressors aren't worth using, IME...
  8. Droog


    Aug 14, 2003
    Yeah, only you can decide if you need compression. Do you feel like you need to remove some of the dynamics of your playing? Do you want a crazy over compressed sound? Do you want to add more lights to your rig? Or do you want to just add more lights to your rig? The fact that you are asking leads me to believe that you don't fully understand it. IMHO don't use something if you are unclear of its results. I think you are probably just fine with the compressor in your amp, untill you can identify what you don't like about it, then get something else.

    what about that, i know, its a be*****er, but, is it any good?

    Im looking for a cheapish compressor to waste some money on

    (sorry to nab your thread, but i didnt see the point in starting another thread on rack mount compressors)
  10. nickname


    Jan 22, 2005
    Is there a website I can read up on compressors and extaclt what type of sound it usualyl results in. I do like the compressed sound, i have it at about 1:00, too much just drowns out the high notes and the big boom on it. Perhaps its just a ****ty compressor, How do i figure out what I want in a compressor?

    You can have a listen to some older tunes my band has done, and it will give you an idea of the kinda sound we have.. i've never been fan of the tone on that album. I'm looking for a very clean high tone but with good bottom to it. I pick rather than use my fingers, so one problem I always come across with high tone is that it picks up wayy to much of the pick hitting the string. Would compression help with that?!

    Thanks guys!
  11. 4Mal

    4Mal Gold Supporting Member

    Jun 2, 2002
    Columbia River Gorge
    3 uses for compressors and 1 rule of thumb in my book

    1. As a limiter in a live environment. Basically preventing string pop's from taking people's heads off at the first few tables.

    2. as an additional gain stage

    3. When recording, to bring up the level of the overall recording during the mastering process. This is about the only time I actually use a compressor as a compressor.

    The rule of thumb is that if I can hear the compressor - I am using too extreme a setting.
  12. Droog


    Aug 14, 2003
    +1 Absolutely.

    Though some people do like extreme compression as an effect, does'nt do much for me however and not recomended for the novice.
  13. Droog


    Aug 14, 2003
    Ok, here is the best article I have ever read on compressors and compression. Its kind of long and is geared toward engineers, but if you really want to know about compressors this is it.Electronic Musician - The Big Squeeze Highly recomended read, I was suprised I found it on the net.
  14. Tedintheshed

    Tedintheshed Inactive

    Oct 8, 2004
    Columbus, Ohio
    After much trial, I settled upon a dBX 160X in my rack. It is the discontinued version of the current dBX 160A. For $150.00-$200.00 you get a studio quality compressor, with many useful features that is transparent, quiet and bulletproof.

    I owned a Behringer, and it petered out after a year.
  15. Tedintheshed

    Tedintheshed Inactive

    Oct 8, 2004
    Columbus, Ohio
    An easy to understand document of Compression.

  16. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    Let me don't care for compression.
  17. Droog


    Aug 14, 2003
    Thats not it all. Compression is a powerful tool if you know how to use it. I just don't recomend people to buy one if they are unclear on what it does. I love compression, but misuse sounds terrible.
  18. Sound Chaser

    Sound Chaser

    Mar 19, 2005
    Lockport, NY
    The Ashly Audio CLX-51 is supposed to be pretty good.