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Conklin Groove Tools GT7's

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by fretless_freak, Aug 5, 2002.

  1. I was looking on Ebay and had to refer to the website, but I was really considering getting one of the Conklin Groove Tools GT7's! Note the operative word WAS!!!!!! It just totally pisses me off, if I may use such harsh words, that it comes in a 34 inch neck! What kind of crap is that? I have a Kingston-5 in a 35 inch neck and I totally dig it! I can not believe that a 7 string would come in anything less than that. Sorry to complain, but that really makes me mad! I guess I won't be getting a GT7!
  2. I think I speak for most of us when I say:

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    You want a better B-string sound? Buy a better bass. The sound of the B-string will be more affected by the brand and gauge of strings, the woods, the pickups, the neck joint, the bridge, the nut ( for open strings ), and how you pluck it.

    Don't believe me? Try this:

    Play an F# on the 2nd fret of you're E string and remember the sound. Then tune your bass a half-step higher and then play the F# on the 1st fret. That should simulate a scale length change of more than an inch. You can also do the same on the B-string if you have one. I'll bet that you can't tell the difference.

    If you want a tighter string you can always get a higher gauge string. A longer scale length will allow you to use a lighter gauge string to get the same tension. Even so, I doubt that most people could tell the difference and even if they could, I doubt that they could quantitatively say that one sound is better than the other. Even if it is better. Is anyone going to notice? How often do you play a low B or C or D in a context where anyone can clearly identify the tone?

    To dis 34 inch scale lengths like this seems pretty silly to me. Sorry for the roasting but I think you asked for it.

    - Dave
  3. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    oh, yeah, man, that 34" scale length is totally pathetic. i'm going to be unloading all 8 of my custom 7's for firewood - they can't handle anything below middle c. :rolleyes:

    dude, bill conklin has been making 7+ string instruments with kick ass low b and lower (i get a good usable low F# out of my 7's, an octave lower than the f# on the low e string) with 34" scale necks for the past...oh...12 years or so. don't believe the hype - a rigid neck is _way_ more important to the low b string than an extra inch of scale length.

    my two 8 string (non-doubled) conklins have 35" scale length, and are tuned down to low F#, below low b. they don't perform any better than my 34"'s.

    get whatever bass you want, but don't judge a bass on it's scale length without playing it first. that's pretty silly.
  4. BigBohn


    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    Yeah, what they said! :mad:

    Enough grilling. Now go get a 7er and come back with pics. Try to rekindle our faith in you and make us proud! :)

    edited: yes, jt, gladly :)
  5. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    ixnay on the name-calling, eh?
  6. I did not mean to come across with such stupidity. I deserve all the roastings you all can give me. I just fell in love with the feel of the 35 inch neck and assumed that the GT7 had 35 instead of 34. I hope one day to be able to play a Conklin 7 string, to see what it is like!
  7. pmkelly

    pmkelly Supporting Member

    Nov 28, 2000
    Kansas City, MO
    get the GT7.... if you still think that the B is sloppy, then give it to me... it can sit next to my GT7...

  8. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    hey, that's cool. just give it a try before you turn your back on it. to be honest, i think you'll appreciate the shorter scale length considering the wider neck. :)

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